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Cerin
[ Jump to post ] Posted: Wed 15 Mar , 2006 6:54 pm

 
Forum: The Turf
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I left because of the way I was treated for standing up for what I believed was right. It made me realize this wasn't the right place for me to begin with, which deep down I really did know from the start, but I was enamored of the goal of democratic governance and of the brilliant, committed and fa...
Cerin
[ Jump to post ] Posted: Thu 15 Dec , 2005 4:02 pm

 
Forum: The Turf
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Well then, provide the evidence, Ara-anna.
Cerin
[ Jump to post ] Posted: Thu 15 Dec , 2005 3:57 pm

 
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Cerin, I marked the personal attacks you made as I went through the evidence you provided. They existed. I do not believe I engaged in personal attacks. However, if someone believes I did engage in persistent attacks of a personal nature such that I violated the by-laws, then they can and I believe...
Cerin
[ Jump to post ] Posted: Thu 15 Dec , 2005 3:37 pm

 
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I'm sure this will be seen as a personal attack (can we just ban me this time and be done with it?), but Cerin, you're playing the victim again. No, I was pointing out that when I respond as everyone else does and has a right to do, it was characterized by TM as illegitimate. However, TM has gracio...
Cerin
[ Jump to post ] Posted: Thu 15 Dec , 2005 3:34 pm

 
Forum: The Turf
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Um, have you not noticed that there have been other problems going on of late? And that they're generally bigger than the Bike Racks? And that a lot of those problems keep coming back to your behavior and actions? I told you what this business has all been about for me. I believe the difference of ...
Cerin
[ Jump to post ] Posted: Thu 15 Dec , 2005 3:28 pm

 
Forum: The Turf
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TheMary wrote:
Then perhaps I should have included everyone, because we all sound like broken records.
Thank you. :)
Cerin
[ Jump to post ] Posted: Thu 15 Dec , 2005 3:21 pm

 
Forum: The Turf
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And the Bike Racks have just about zero to do with what we're talking about. That may be true for you, but that is all this has been about for me from the start. I believed we had a forum dedicated to dispute resolution; I believed this was a good and fine thing. After this boardwide vote, we will ...
Cerin
[ Jump to post ] Posted: Thu 15 Dec , 2005 2:52 pm

 
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there was willingness to solve the dispute, as it should have been done, among friends, but no, there had to be a "lawsuit" and a "verdict". There was no way to solve the dispute (the question of what the Bike Racks should be used for) on a personal level; it has to be a boardwi...
Cerin
[ Jump to post ] Posted: Thu 15 Dec , 2005 6:03 am

 
Forum: The Turf
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Choose your words more carefuly Cerin. My apologies. That was shorthand for 'the mooters involved in the second mock thread'. If it is necessary to refer to that again (which I sincerely hope it will not be), I will be more specific. I haven't admonished anyone because their opinions haven't been t...
Cerin
[ Jump to post ] Posted: Thu 15 Dec , 2005 5:25 am

 
Forum: The Turf
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Your intransigence was the evidence. Your repetition of the same tired argument ad nauseum was the evidence. As was everyone else's intransigence. My attempts to explain myself in the face of constant challenges is NOT evidence of an attempt to manipulate the board or control other people's behavio...
Cerin
[ Jump to post ] Posted: Thu 15 Dec , 2005 4:51 am

 
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If you think calling all of those people into trials would have been terrible - which I hope you do - then calling one of those people into trials was a terrible idea too. No, it was not a terrible idea. It stopped the personal attacks against me, and I believe it is the only thing that would have ...
Cerin
[ Jump to post ] Posted: Wed 14 Dec , 2005 2:41 pm

 
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On a serious note, I propose an amendment to the proposed amendment that will change the name of the Bike Racks to something more indicative of their new, more exclusive and solemn purpose. Hi, gdm. There is no new, more solemn purpose being proposed for the Bike Racks. BR was always intended for d...
Cerin
[ Jump to post ] Posted: Fri 09 Dec , 2005 10:18 pm

 
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Thanks, Jnyusa. Fixer, I think people expressed their viewpoints on this issue fairly expansively during the two upheavals surrounding mock threads, so that may be why there is not much discussion left to be had at this point. I appreciate the committee's work, and especially your willingness to ste...
Cerin
[ Jump to post ] Posted: Fri 09 Dec , 2005 9:46 pm

 
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This forum is solely intended for earnest attempts to resolve bona fide disputes, and threads that are not started for that purpose will be moved. I have a slight rearrangement suggestion that I think reads a bit better: This forum is intended solely for earnest attempts to resolve bona fide disput...
Cerin
[ Jump to post ] Posted: Fri 09 Dec , 2005 4:34 pm

 
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That is to outline how to protect members from people who do not have respect for other members. That is why I asked for the hearing. I voiced my opinion and my character and motivation were attacked as a result. That is not respect. There is no case against me. All that I have done is done by peop...
Cerin
[ Jump to post ] Posted: Tue 06 Dec , 2005 10:39 pm

 
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Regarding the ballot in the Jury Room:
Quote:
• restricting posters who have provided invalid email addresses.
Was it determined that this provision is now obsolete? If so, can it be indicated that it will be removed from the text?
Cerin
[ Jump to post ] Posted: Tue 06 Dec , 2005 4:26 pm

 
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I don't want the Charter rewritten. I want the language clarified (which can be accomplished by adding a single word to the current text) so that everyone understands that Bike Racks is intended for dispute resolution (something I believe we all understood before), and a note informing that threads ...
Cerin
[ Jump to post ] Posted: Tue 06 Dec , 2005 4:13 pm

 
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If I ever have to start a thread in Bike Racks I would not want the whole board discussing my intentions for a month. Why would the board be discussing your intentions for a month if you started a thread in Bike Racks according to the clearly stated uses of the forum? They wouldn't. They would only...
Cerin
[ Jump to post ] Posted: Mon 05 Dec , 2005 7:41 pm

 
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Cerin, I think we're going to have to let the Loremaster rule on this as an exception to the Charter specification of a yes/no vote, and summarize in the thread (and perhaps place it in the Archive afterwards) the reason for doing it this way. That's ok by me. I think we should include in whatever ...
Cerin
[ Jump to post ] Posted: Mon 05 Dec , 2005 6:31 pm

 
Forum: The Turf
Replies: 37
Views: 4910
 


Happy anniversary Iavas and Eru! I had not seen these beautiful pictures before, thank you for sharing them.

I assume you two met on TORC? Did you know you were in love before you met in RL, or was it a meeting in RL that confirmed things for you? (if you care to share)
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