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Breogán
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Thanks, but I'm not interested :) , although, if I may speak my mind, I do believe everybody should have access to every single corner of this place...
... of course, thats just my humble opinion. :)

Yes, it is. A twilit landscape, Himlad, the homeland of my fanfiction/RP character.

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Okay, I just wanted to be sure!
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although, if I may speak my mind, I do believe everybody should have access to every single corner of this place...
... of course, thats just my humble opinion. :)
Well, that's the tricky part since there are some things that quite a few members don't want anybody and everybody reading. Believe me that's it been debated and no clear-cut decision has ever been reached.
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Yes, it is. A twilit landscape, Himlad, the homeland of my fanfiction/RP character.
Do you have some online gallery of your art? I'd love to see some more! :mrgreen: Oh...and what medium did you use for that picture?

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Well, that's the tricky part since there are some things that quite a few members don't want anybody and everybody reading. Believe me that's it been debated and no clear-cut decision has ever been reached.

I know. :) And I do also understand that those against opening that part of the forum and grant access to those files to everybody surely have a good reason for that. Still, I'm sorry, but the idea of "private" areas, so to speak, does not appeal to me... anyway, what do I know? :scratch :wink:
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Do you have some online gallery of your art? I'd love to see some more! :mrgreen: Oh...and what medium did you use for that picture?

Medium?
Pure Photoshop! (in an attempt to imitate a real painting - sketching with pencils and ink is fine, but I'm a hell of a disaster with watercolours, oils and such :help:)
Until my own website is not up and running, some of the stuff I've done is store in the following site (there seems to be some security problem, so I'm copying the url address so you can access each pic directly)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/ ... eaming.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/ ... ilight.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/ ... Dirnen.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/ ... meback.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/ ... marils.jpg

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Eruname
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I totally understand your feelings about private areas of the board. If I were on your side of the fence, I'd feel exactly the same way...which is why this issue is so tough to figure out.

Taking the rest to PM so as not to derail the thread anymore! ;)

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Hmmh, just wondering - there's been no post in the admin forum since mid-December - have you guys really made no posts since then or is it a bug in the visibility of the place?

Edit: been through your pics, Breogan - wow, I love the Feanor one! That's just how I'd imagine him, perfectly beautiful in outline, and looking so cold you just want to kill him. :mrgreen:

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All we do there is shift crap when its done. All the talking about other posters is done in the secret Admin forum you can't see TH.












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That's exactly how rumours spread.. tsk tsk tsk Dindraug Nasty elf! :P

TH: I just think they're.... erm..... pre-occupied :halo:


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truehobbit
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I think Din has a forum all for himself in which he posts nasty things about all of us! :P

Thanks, Alandriel - was just thinking it might be a bug, that it had stopped being visible or something.
No problem about there being no posts - like they say, the happy times are the empty pages in the history book. :mrgreen:

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Actually, I am beggining to wonder what to do about the private areas now as they have more or less run their course.

They were created to provide someplace for the pertition signers to go have a whinge, to collate information etc. I am beggining to wonder if we need them anymore.

I am making this point here because I am interested in what the non-pertition members think. I do not think it would be in anybodies interest to open them up. Should we just close them down and delete?

Musing here, just fishing for ideas.

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I reckon that's the best you can do - close and delete them prior granting everybody access everywhere. :D

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Eruname
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I don't agree with the deleting bit. I don't think we should wipe away all trace of those threads. They could be helpful at another point of time...you never know. Plus a lot of effort went into them. It would be a shame to delete them.

All the threads have been locked in the confidential forum and there hasn't been any activity in there. It's pretty much died it's own death. Isn't that enough?

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Leoba
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Lock all the TORC related stuff then. :) It's pretty much dead. Though I may have the odd deletion request anyway.

Although it will rear its head again if a non-petitioner gets elected admin, as is bound to happen at some point in time.


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Although it will rear its head again if a non-petitioner gets elected admin, as is bound to happen at some point in time.
This is all that worries me. I can't remember who but somebody mentioned a safe store for them. Would this be an option, or maybe storing the threads you want to keep on our own hard drives?

I just don't want it forgeotten until some distant future admin goes "THEY SAID WHAT ABOUT MY BEST FRIEND!!!!"

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Eruname
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I'm not sure how we could store them here because the admin would have to have access.

Leoba has raised a point that I have been thinking about. We have all this stuff stored away, but what if in the future someone who hasn't been involved with all the "porn" became an admin? They'd immediately have access to all that stuff. My only thought was maybe the admin position should only be open to original members (though I'd include satch, Vana, holby, and mummpizz since they have been part of all the petition related stuff really), but that seems kind of unfair.

I just don't know what the best option is.

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This is not really my business here, because I wasn't an original member ... but threads can be stored away from the website, can't they?

Someone, or several people, could copy the threads onto their hard drive and preserve them that way. That's what I do with TORC threads that are of interest to me, because I know eventually they'll disappear and I don't want to lose some of those wonderful conversations.

Here it seems you want some archive of your history, but it doesn't have to be accessible directly from the site.

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Sorry - I wish I could come up with some good suggestion as to how store threads away from this board. I'm really not a whizz in these matters.. but should a solution be found, I think that would be the best option.
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Alandriel,

Here's what I do on TORC, and I just tried it out here and it works here, too.

1. Open a page
2. Select All
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4. Paste into a word document file.
5. Repeat process for each page.

Because there's so much extra space on a messageboard, I do edit the thread down after it's all been copied. I delete everything but the poster name, the submit date (and time) and the actual text. Then I close all the spaces and I have a nice, neat document with everything that was said.

That can be stored on more than one person's computer, and if someone leaves and doesn't want to maintain the archive anymore, you just email the archive to someone else.

There are probably other, geekier ways of doing it, but this way works fine for me and doesn't take up too much memory.

It's a bit time consuming if you have to save and then edit a bunch of threads at once, but you can distribute that work over a few months to a few different people and wait to open admin positions until it's done.

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Thanks for the info Jny I just tried it and although I have 1 Giga memory it tells me I don't even have enough to copy just one page :Q

Anyways.. there used to be a nifty text extractor for TORC
http://neb2.gotdns.com:8080/torc/index.html .. now if we only could have something like that that would work for B77.

Frankly - to save page by page and then edit.... this is going to be very tedious :(
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Jnyusa
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Yes, it's tedious.

I would volunteer to do some of the threads, but I'm one of the people who doesn't have access to them. Perhaps someone else on the board has enough memory for this, or knows of a less tedious way to do it.

For the TORC threads ... it took me about three weeks to copy and edit them, doing a handful of pages every night ... it was probably ~ 150 TORC pages, with 30 posts per page, and they distilled down to about 500 pages of word document, just to give you an idea of relative magnitude. I was really sick of deleting signatures by the time I was done!!

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Precisely the method that I've used for all the threads that have been important to me - and some of them have 600+ posts :Q :shock: :Q

Tedious and time consuming, but I've not had any problems with memory. Perhaps, rather than just selecting all via the menu, you could use your cursor to highlight all the text, top to bottom...that works too.

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