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PostPosted: Fri 23 Jan , 2009 9:15 pm 
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Based on observations and unsolicited feedback from the members at large, the rangers have decided to suspend the posting rights of halplm and Sauronsfinger from the Symposium for a period of two weeks.

While there has been no one instance that has warranted such suspension of posting rights, the overall behavior of these two and the disruption to the board leaves us with no choice. They have both been asked repeatedly by the members and rangers to consider the rest of the board and desist, but have failed to comply.

Their posting behavior of late has amounted to nothing more than two people taking over multiple threads with their arguments, and making it very difficult for the rest of the board to carry on any kind of fruitful discussion.

This measure is not being taken in the hopes that any kind of resolution will come of this, but merely to give the rest of the board some peace from the endless arguments.

Halplm and Sauronsfinger are free to use the rest of the board. However, if the arguments and disruptive behavior continues to the other forums, further action will be taken.

The rangers have avoided doing this as much as possible and have tried to send warnings and advice, but we have been essentially forced to act on behalf of the board. The amount of complaints and feedback from the membership has been too great to ignore.

The suspensions are effective immediately and will last until 4:00 pm EST 6 February 2009.

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Jan , 2009 9:16 pm 
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total bullshit. You have no right to do this in any way.

I demand a hearing before any such suspension take place.

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Jan , 2009 9:19 pm 
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as would I

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Jan , 2009 9:30 pm 
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Under Rights in the Charter:

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To a Hearing if you are accused of violating the by-laws; to appeal a Hearing under certain circumstances; to petition for the reversal of a ban under certain circumstances. You must abide by the decisions of our Juries and use proper procedure when contesting the decisions of Rangers or Jurors. Refer to Article 5 of our Charter for a full explanation of your rights under any dispute procedure.

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Jan , 2009 9:42 pm 
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You're not banned.

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Jan , 2009 10:01 pm 
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This action can be subjected to review.
You guys can put together the committee to review the decision.

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Jan , 2009 10:16 pm 
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I would like to ask for a substitute to the two week suspension which could benefit everyone.

I propose that you confine Hal and I to the Bike Racks for three days time.
It would be up to us to mutually together reach some sort of program to work and co-exist.

If at the end of the three days, we have not done that, then the suspension would start.

This could benefit everyone.

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Jan , 2009 10:19 pm 
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Thank you, Holby and the gang. :)
(Though I was also hoping to see hal banned from Business.)


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PostPosted: Fri 23 Jan , 2009 10:33 pm 
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Thank you, Rangers. I agree that this is an appropriate action.


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PostPosted: Fri 23 Jan , 2009 11:29 pm 
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A committee should be put together to review this action. As our rules stand, this is what would be considered abuse of power. I realize that that might sound hypocritical coming from the person who posted a poll about banning a member, but I did not take an action, merely posted something.

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Jan , 2009 11:39 pm 
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The action is reviewable by a committee. Nobody ever said otherwise.

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Jan , 2009 11:48 pm 
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Sorry if there was any confusion about hal and sf's ability to post since this announcement. Holby and I finally just figured out how to set the permissions correctly.


I know this may not be the best choice, but we saw it as the best solution for the time being. It isn't permanent and it is of course reviewable by a committee.

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PostPosted: Sat 24 Jan , 2009 12:08 am 
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I don't think it's an abuse of power in the least. :poke:

The posters in question have been abusing the limits on power that the rangers have, and they know it. :bang:

And they've been abusing the patience of every single current poster on the board. :salmon:

Screw 'em :shrug:


No offense.

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PostPosted: Sat 24 Jan , 2009 12:13 am 
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Okay, so action is demanded of us and we take it. WTF do you suggest TED?

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PostPosted: Sat 24 Jan , 2009 12:26 am 
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Totally support this action.

Who knows, maybe SF will start posting in Music and Movies and Hal can post about cats or something in Turf.

The threads in the Symp were beginning to look like a chat room. I once went to respond thoughtfully to a post by Hal and before I could even get the post up, he and SF had racked up another SIX back-and-forth posts. In about 5 minutes. Nobody else even has a chance to think about what to post, because it's the Hal and SF show and they never give it a rest.

About damn time.


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PostPosted: Sat 24 Jan , 2009 12:40 am 
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There is nothing in the charter about this crap. YOu guys are inventing entirely new "rules" on the fly.

The charter states a hearing is required for any violation of the by-laws. Without a violation of the by-laws, there is no basis for a suspension.

You are abusing the power given to you. This is the entire reason a charter exists at all.

This is not a committee issue, it is a hearing issue. You cannot change the rules like this unless YOU form a committee.

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PostPosted: Sat 24 Jan , 2009 12:43 am 
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Give me emergency powers and I'll ban both of them. Then you can ban me. I'm sick and tired of this crap.

hal, SHUT UP. Please.

Rangers - please?

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PostPosted: Sat 24 Jan , 2009 12:44 am 
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um, no.

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PostPosted: Sat 24 Jan , 2009 12:44 am 
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WTF - I seemed to have completely misplaced my sympathy :confused:


.....*looks around*..... :peek:


Can't find it. :scratch: Oh well. :shrug:



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PostPosted: Sat 24 Jan , 2009 12:47 am 
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A hearing will do you no good. People are sick of the way you post and want you to leave.

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