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Posted: Mon 13 Dec , 2004 8:50 am
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So today, I made a little experiment with two of my classes... 7th and 8th degree, so children between 11 and 14.

The idea came from a comment the other day on TORC - I think it was Ethel, but I'm not sure, whoe said that first when she saw Lidless pic, she did not think of any harm, and only understood the double sense later - and of Jonathan's famous example that one day a mother of a 13 year old wrote him that she did not want her son to read such nasty things as written on his site and that thus he created the TOS to protect the innocent mind of the youth of the the world....

I happen to work with kids of this age every day. :roll: And I can tell you that my students are no choir children... the other I confiscated from angel looking little Nelson a pen with a lady in bikini on it - only when you turned it to write, the bikini vanished. When a girl had to climb on a table to switch on the beamer to watch a movie, one of them yelled: "Strip-Tease"... just normal teen-agers, I'm sure you get the picture.

Of course, they all know that I am a Tolkienfan - after all I took a class to see ROTK last year and I often use LOTR in grammar examples. That's what I did today: I used several pictures from the movies for a revision of prepositions in German - among which Lidless infamous. The sentence they should write beside it: Frodo steht hinter Sam. Sam steht vor Frodo. (Sam stand in front of Frodo. Frodo stand behind Sam) To be sure, I even translated the caption in French: "Tiens-toi tranquille!" Other pictures included Pippin and Merry carried by Treebard, the Eye, the Nazgul flying over the battlefield etc.

Now, have a guess: How many of my tender innocent students giggled, blemished or gave any other sign of realising that they had just seen an anal rape?
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I decided now to put this exercise in the teacher's exercise collection to see if one of my colleagues will protest.... ;)

and not one student gave a sign of understanding

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Why am I not surprised?

That's half the fun of innuendo - knowing that the only people who'll "get it" are those whose minds are already in the gutter. And if your mind is that filthy you'll see innuendo in anything!

We were watching "Grease" the other night (light fluffy escapism was needed!) and it struck me how much of that script washed over me when I was a kid, heck, even when I was a teenager.

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Absolutely! Innuendo is understood only by those who know what the double entendre is all about.

I got Steve's pic (and thought "Oh shit, he's getting the boot! :doh:) and crispy's comment that started the latest storm, but I didn't have half a clue what Ro's "Subwoofer Club" was. Now what does that make me?

Thanks for conducting the experiment, Nin. :D

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The thing with the subwoovers, is that it had to be explained, or even better: experienced. ;)


Coolness on the experiment Nin. And innuendo is in the eye of the beholder. Too bad the mods enforce that very subjectively.

Admittedly: Till I met Steve I was hardly into innuendo and only noticed the most obvious ones. You corrupted me, Steve...

And I love you for it. :P:twisted:

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Did you do your duty and explain to those little children what Frodo was doing? I mean, they must get punched with their noses on it if they don't get it. Or did you just let it pass as a proposition test? Preposition I mean?

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Of course, Mummpizz, my Tsherman sense of duty...

How about a demonstration next time.

And I did not get flaminig phone calls from disgusted parents either... so definately, I don't have a crispycreme kid in my class ;)

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You're lucky that you can do those sorts of things in Europe as a teacher. I suspect it takes a lot to get in trouble over there. If a teacher had done what you've done here in the States they would be in trouble...and I bet some parents would call for the teacher's firing. :roll:

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Buggered if I know what all the fuss was about.

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LMAO DIN maybe Frodo didn't notice either


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Perhaps a better caption would have been, "Frodo had it in for Sam."

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:LMAO:

Lidless, that one is priceless :mrgreen:

As for me, I'm a guttermind, and proud of it. There almost no bit of innuendo, meant or otherwise, that escapes my dirty mind.

Point in case: the other day Anthriel posted something in Stormy's convo thread that my dirty mind immediately grasped as a thing most foul. I replied to her warning her about it since I thought a Mod would come lock her up for it.

She didn't get it.

The Mods didn't get it.

The other person implied in the comment didn't get it.

No-one got it. Only Griff.

Then a day later I get an email where she apologized. Must have spinned that in her mind all day long trying to figure out what I saw in it. :mrgreen: She mailed the Mods and edited the comment, of course, but to date I'm the only one who realized what it could mean :twisted:

There's an Afrikaans saying "brein soos 'n plaasdam" which translates as "mind like a farm dam" which means, shallow and dirty :)

I hear it a lot :mrgreen:

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Oooh...now you have me wondering what she wrote. :P

Here the expression is "mind in the gutter".

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Ah - mind in the gutter. That's me, too :mrgreen:. Anthriel actually mentioned in the email ( we got talking about cultural differences and what one culture finds dirty and another doesn't after than ) that she considers herself to not have a squeaky clean mind either. Sez I: but I saw something dirty in that post waaayyy before you did.

I think I win :)

Well, about what she wrote, she was embarassed ( I think! ) so I will respect her privacy and not propagate, but it had to do with the fact that I fooled around with oldtoby a bit, here and there. That set it up. Then she fed me one of her cookies, made famous in Aunties and M00bies, so we fooled around and RP'd with me tripping on cookies. It was THEN that she posted the something about me and toby that, by itself, clearly meant something sexual, ( to my mind at least!! ) added to the fact that I have been teasing the cuddly studmuffin ( some titles that gets approved surprises me :mrgreen: ) and calling him a 'manly man' and whatnot.

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I guess you're all familiar with this photo then...

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It is a picture of nine dolphins. Can you find them?

It was shown to a group of young children who found all nine right away. They had no prior memory association with what we first saw. Apparently if it takes you longer than 30 seconds to find the dolphins, you're corrupted beyond hope.

I always had this picture in mind when Jon was doing his thang up there on TORC. The only people who are going to get some of these things are the ones already past the point of giggling like 10-year-olds when they hear something remotely sexual.

Here's another example - when I was a kid I walked in on my parents having sex, but I didn't even know they were doing anything "wrong" until they screamed at me to get out, then I cried my eyes out all night thinking that I had upset them so bad. Then I had to learn about the birds and the bees, and only then did I know what they were doing. These uncorrupted kids Jon is trying to cater to don't even know something is "wrong" until he and the mods come in screaming at the offender (Lidless, etc.). Betcha that's when they start asking what so-and-so is. If they even sniff naughtiness, they want to learn more. That's how I learned a few things this year, like what MILF stood for (by the by, Angel was allowed to get away with that one, too). I didn't get it, but I assumed it was something rude, and when I asked a few folks, I discovered I was right. :P

You can't even join TORC until you're 13 years of age, and personally, I was being corrupted by the time I was 9. So I think Jon is just a wee bit insane. But I think about things too much. I think these 13-year-olds are on their computers looking up porn while Jon is rejecting a sig pic because the sleeve falling off suggests nudity. I think these kids are flirting with 50-year-old pedophiles in a chat room while TORC is keeping any non-mod innuendo off the boards. I think they're doing drugs and smoking cigarettes and working long hours at awful jobs and raising babies while being spoken down to on TORC for not being mature enough.

No, I'm not in a hurry for kids to grow up any faster than they currently are, I just don't like the idea of pussyfooting around to keep stuff from them when it's likely to hit 'em head on in the real world. If you prepare them for it they can handle it better, but if you shield them from every possible thing you don't feel like talking to them about yet, then you'll just hurt them in the long run.

I like my soapbox very much, thanks. :)




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I like your soapbox too Nikki.



And - what dolphins? :roll: :oops:

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OK, nothing you don't allready know about Griff ...

I'm beyond hope! I nearly saw double trying to see bloody cetaceans in that pic :mrgreen:

I still can't find all nine and it is five minutes later :oops:

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I had to find those dolphins really quick, and squinting, the picture kept turning back to PORN!!!!


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What dolphins?

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TheLidlessEyes wrote:
What dolphins?
I think I used the first 30 seconds trying to force my mind to start searching for dolphins and stop googling at nekkid humans meself.

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I mean it. I have no idea what the hell you lot are talking about. It must be one of those magic eye things? If I stare at it long enough I don't see any dolphins - I just get a hard on.

*goes off looking for Estel. Hopes she is the woman nearest otherwise there'll be a lot of explaining to do*

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