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Wonderful! So let's discuss this related question, then:


If a PhD does NOT grant you expert status in determining greatness, then what DOES grant you expert status in the subject of greatness?


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"It is not truth that makes man great; but man that makes truth great." ~ Confucius

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The best rules, are, to talk little, to hear much, to reflect alone upon what has passed in company, to distrust one's own opinions, and value others that deserve it.

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(Ara already did that one)

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It is funny to see random Confucian teachings in here. I would bet the lot of you scarcely know of him. You just found a cool-sounding quote and pasted it in here. Quotes are even cooler with a context. :p

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which symphony are you talking about?

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sauronsfinger wrote:
which symphony are you talking about?
I finally made a metaphor that someone didn't catch right away! That must mean it's a good one. *logs clever metaphor away*

Anyway, what I was trying to say is, a single quote from a great thinker may have great wisdom or inspiration within, but with the context of the rest of the teachings and an understanding of the quoted and the times they lived in, a whole new level of understanding may be uncovered.

...In that respect, I suppose I was referring to the symphony of life, the universe, and everything. :)

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I guess it would be Symphony no. 42?

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Meril36 wrote:
I guess it would be Symphony no. 42?
Yes, as a matter of fact. God began writing it when he was 42, and the orchestra has 42 members who each play a unique instrument for a total of 42 instruments. When each page is layed out single file, it stretches exactly 42 light years long. It is truely a magnificent achievement in music which unfortunately only the divine can truely appreciate.

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The new Rolling Stone article explores the issues of how a historian's opinion compares to a layman's, the nature of "greatness", and which Presidents are generally considered best (and worst). A discussion of the specific judgement the article is premised on probably belongs in another thread.

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In almost every survey of historians dating back to the 1940s, three presidents have emerged as supreme successes: George Washington, Abraham Lincoln and Franklin D. Roosevelt. These were the men who guided the nation through what historians consider its greatest crises: the founding era after the ratification of the Constitution, the Civil War, and the Great Depression and Second World War. Presented with arduous, at times seemingly impossible circumstances, they rallied the nation, governed brilliantly and left the republic more secure than when they entered office.

Calamitous presidents, faced with enormous difficulties -- Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Hoover and now Bush -- have divided the nation, governed erratically and left the nation worse off. In each case, different factors contributed to the failure: disastrous domestic policies, foreign-policy blunders and military setbacks, executive misconduct, crises of credibility and public trust.


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While I disagreed with some of the analysis, overall I thought the article excellent and he made a damn good case for Bush Jr being our worst president ever.

A title currently held by FDR, IMO.

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