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I dunno; you all sound like a buncha socialists to me.

I don't agree with the full how-to-be-an adult class, but only because I fear that it will lead to wimpier and wimpier societies. Currently the best way to learn to be an adult is to ask your parents, failing that, ask someone in a related field, and failing that, learn the hard way. If we offer people the short cut right away, then we may see generations less inclined to learn. That's my dystopian fear.

If you want to learn to balance your check book, ask your local teller. The bank pays them to assist the customer in any way.

What if you fail the class?

What if you fail the class because you disagree with the instructor on parenting theories?

then you die

Snip, snip, CG.

TED - that would be an interesting idea for the final class - those who pass get a diploma... those who don't...... snip snip.

Sounds tyrannical, like something out of a dystopian novel.

It's the only conclusion I can draw.

It sounds not only tyrannical but horrifying.

**jots down notes for next year's Nanowrimo

Keep it coming.

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It sounds not only tyrannical but horrifying.

you are responding to a joke made in humor

but seriously...
Why is it so important to keep to the failed status quo and not move ahead with education programs which can teach people parenting skills?

Instead, we get the doom and gloom spectre looming over us all that this is Big Brother going to sterilize everyone.

The standards for cutting hair in most states are far stronger than the creation and care of another human being for the next two decades. It might be nice if we educated folks about these responsibilities instead of pretending that some magical knowledge kicks in making everyone a good and loving parent. Millions of abused children each year prove otherwise.

Again, the current standards are the extreme of the continuum. Forced government control is at the opposite end. There is a whole lot of ground in the sensible middle which rational people of an open mind can discuss and explore.

Hospitals do prenatal care classes that are supposed to teach the parents-to-be. Forcing people to take the classes is a different story.

Insurers could offer reduced co-pays for parents who take the classes.

Good luck getting insurance companies to agree to take less money from people.

TED
we already have a captive audience in the school system... and they are there for many years. Tax credits for continuing adult parenting classes and child development classes would be one very constructive way to proceed. We can either pay up front in educating people or we can pay much more trying to clean up the social mess they cause. I think its a pretty easy choice.

River- you have a point there-- I imagine that well raised kids tend to be healthier kids so there may be an incentive for insurers there.

TheEllipticalDisillusion wrote:

Hospitals do prenatal care classes that are supposed to teach the parents-to-be. Forcing people to take the classes is a different story.

Ted

They only teach you how to change a diaper and how to feed the baby. That is the easy part. It's when they are between the ages of 12 and NuckinFuts that's the hard part. Someone once told me it would get easier, the later admitted they lied.

I can't say too much since I am not a parent, but I think by 12-nuckinfutz the parents have to figure their own way out. Teaching you how to change a diaper is technical stuff, but teaching you how to deal with a 12-year-old depends on the 12-year-old. Some kids are nightmares, others are dreams. One system won't work.

I agree TED. One system will not work. Which is why various techniques should be taught as options.

Anthony Grandparents Reportedly Seeking Immunity

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... ng.01.html" target="_blank


My opinion is this, if this is true, that it's a cya move on the grandparents part. Or, there is something that stinks in Denmark.

I watched Nancy Grace last night, much to my tiredness today, and was sort of shocked that the grandparents are now asking for immunity. And come to find out the Grandmother Cindy supposedly intentionally gave the FBI the wrong hair brush.

Interesting to say the least.

Caylee should be looking forward to opening Christmas presents, and not be on a cold metal autopsy tray. The more I find out the more angry I get. Of course the sad part of this is, this type of horrific thing happens on a daily basis and doesn't get reported.

I greatly sympathize with your feelings on this and agree with you. My heart breaks for that little girl.

But if a reindeer on Christmas Eve runs over Nancy Grace just like that horrid song, you won't hear a complaint out of me. That woman is like nails on a chalkboard to me. Sorry - but I just cannot watch her for even a moment. I appreciate it that she may be doing some good from time to time --- for her own selfish purposes -- but I just cannot stand the woman.