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FOX News has taken their anti-Obama administration crusade to a new level. Today they debuted an internet site where people can post rants against all the forces of liberal evil that they believe are destroying this nation.
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"It's Time to Say NO to Biased Media and Say YES to Fair Play and Free Speech."

Biased media are in the eye of the beholder, and with a site built around such high-decibel stars as Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck, Fox is hoping to leverage its brand online, especially among conservative true believers. "We felt that giving people a real destination to go and express themselves would give them a feeling of belonging," says Senior Vice President Joel Cheatwood. "People feel they're dictated to a lot by the media."

The launch comes as Fox News Channel is touting its aggressive approach to the Obama administration, which has led to rising ratings after eight years in which the network's top commentators often sided with the Bush White House.

And this comes at the same time US House of Representatives member Michelle Bachmann of Minnesotta is calling a new revolution among her rightwing supporters.

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Michelle Bachman (R-MN) has ramped up her calls for a revolution against the government of the United States by misquoting Thomas Jefferson, "It’s like Thomas Jefferson said, a revolution every now and then is a good thing." What Jefferson actually said was "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

that was from buzzflash.com

The rabbit hole is getting very wide and very deep.

sauronsfinger wrote:

And this comes at the same time US House of Representatives member Michelle Bachmann of Minnesotta is calling a new revolution among her rightwing supporters.

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Michelle Bachman (R-MN) has ramped up her calls for a revolution against the government of the United States by misquoting Thomas Jefferson, "It’s like Thomas Jefferson said, a revolution every now and then is a good thing." What Jefferson actually said was "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

Isn't that kinda what already in November...just a few months ago? People were sick of the policies of the last 8 years, banded together and did something about it. Obama's been President for a little over 2 months, he's already destroying America and it's time for a revolution? Give me a frakking break. I'm so sick of the hypocritical Rush-Limbaugh-type conservatives I keep seeing on TV.

Eru,

Me and you both. Rush is the guy who is saying there is a hole in the boat, that Obama ran the boat into the iceberg and that GWB had nothing to do with any of it. The thing Rush and his budies fail to realize is we are all on the same frakin' boat. They like to piss and moan but fail to do anything but piss and moan and offer more tax breaks for the richest 1%.

I, myself am still waiting for some of that money to trickle my way.





And Glen Beck is a frakin fruit loop, and I have no idea how he is on any broadcast station. And no Glen soilders don't actually wear the Metal of Honor on their uniforms, they wear the ribbon.

"A frakin fruit loop"..?


Sorry.

I don't see what the big deal is. If you don't want to view it then don't go to the site. I don't agree with PETA, or any other animal rights group, so I don't go there. I won't visit the Fox site either because I don't feel like getting dragged down.

There are plenty of sites out there for each side to voice their gripes, what's one more?

freddy

Freddy... it is a sign of the times.... the fracturing of our larger culture into smaller sects or sub-cultures that live in a bubble and attempt to keep all others at bay. I went on the site and participated in a discussion about Alaska Governor Palin. It was like I was from one planet and these other folks were from a different planet altogether. One one hand it was scary - on the other hand it made me feel great that these folks would nominate Palin in 2012.

So now we have a TV channel for folks who only want their news slanted one way and an internet site which takes it even further. Perfectly legal and nothing immoral about it. But at what societal cost?

sauronsfinger wrote:

But at what societal cost?

$99.99

MH, don't forget -1 economy.

It's nice that FOX news wants to create this site. Go for it, fellas. You have that right. Unfortunately, the Limbaugh wing of the GOP runs the risk of fracturing the party even more. A lot of people are supposedly getting behind this blog that Megan McCain is posting, and her style of conservatism is not in line with the Limbaugh-Coulter-Hannity crowd.

I listened to Karl Rove on the radio yesterday at a rally (it sounded like a rally, could have been bad reception) calling for democracy in action, and that the people were tricked in the election despite the fact that they exercised their democracy. It's fun to watch these neo-con idiots crying about their loss of power, as if they didn't have 8 years to ruin the country already.

MariaHobbit wrote:

sauronsfinger wrote:

But at what societal cost?

$99.99

And if you call during the commercial we'll throw in a Sham Wow and a Snuggie for free.

TED --- hey welcome back ... you were missed. And just in time for the hockey playoffs too.
Of course, the Wings win again ... but you probably knew that.

ten bucks for a shamwow.... pretty good deal ... does that come with a set of premium Ginseu carving knives and all the gospel music ever recorded?

Speaking of the Wings, how'd you like that shutout at home against the worst team in the league? I'm rooting for a Bruins (or Caps) - Sharks tilt. The Caps won't make it all the way unfortunately no matter what Alexander the Great does. I will be damned if I have to see another Red Wings cup victory. (Sorry, I was a big Avs fan back when Patrick Roy played for them.)

SF, it's perspective. There are many times on here that I feel like I am on a different planet. These fractures you are speaking of have been around for a long time. You simply didn't see them because the fractures were supporting your point of view, this one doesn't. This time last year the sites were about disliking Bush and his cabinet. Now it's another group that is saying they dislike the president. Simply a change in who is the subject, that's all.



freddy

The worst thing about this is the complete lack of real dialogue. These websites, and radio and TV programs, whether "right" or "left" do not encourage dialogue or communication and they actually deepen the divides between various "sides". This is not some theory of mine, but is in fact the most recent finding by those who study the subject.

It's very sad. When people hear only one point of view they very quickly become convinced that it is the only right point of view. "Right" as in "correct".

If everyone, now and again, deliberately sought out those who disagree with him, and listened, and tried to communicate, it would be a better thing, would it not?

For instance, I once listened for a few minutes to this Limbaugh person. I was really shocked. I mean, really shocked. Not exaggerating, not saying "really" as in, "a little bit", but really shocked. There is, thankfully, no such person in Canada with a powerful radio network behind him. There could be - there is no law against it - but so far we have avoided that horrible contagion.

It is not just that I disagree with Limbaugh, but that he is hateful, foul-mouthed, nasty, ignorant, and encourages hate and intolerance with an unholy glee that made me sick. He is a disgusting execresence on the human race - and yet he is a very powerful man. Why so many perfectly ordinary people buy into his world view is beyond me. Are people really so afraid? He caters to their fears and ignorance and is rewarded by enormous political influence. Something wrong there. Something rotten in the state of Denmark.

He is called a "conservative", but that's not what he is. I know plenty of American conservatives, old line Republicans, who loathe the guy. And yet, up until this last election, they did not realize or understand what they had allowed to happen to their party for the sake of getting Bush elected twice - and they want it back. Will they get it? I hope so.

I agree with Freddy. I sure as hell am no fan of Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, or Bill O'Reilly, but who am I to make a fuss if they want to start a website like that? I am free to choose not to visit it, which I will happily do. I can guarantee you that there are plenty of liberal websites spewing extremist hatred about Republicans and conservatives. To be perfectly blunt, I don't think this is something that anyone should waste their time griping about.

TheEllipticalDisillusion wrote:

I will be damned if I have to see another Red Wings cup victory. (Sorry, I was a big Avs fan back when Patrick Roy played for them.)

Damn straight! I fucking hate the Wings.

Well hockey fans , maybe we can make a friendly wager on the playoffs?

TED - the last week or two of the season normally sees some weird stuff happening. Its gonna be different once the playoffs begin.

Vison - Limbaugh can no longer shock me --- the other day he said Hilary Clinton was twice the man Obama is ..... 'yawn'. Its like riding on the back of a garbage truck for months - the smell is no longer as bad as you thought it was. The world would be a better place without him however.

Never mind those effete Eastern teams.

Canucks '09.

Suck it up.

HEY,HEY stop osgili...osgili, stop railroading this thread. Besides the cup is coming back to the states where it belongs .


freddy

Merciful heavens.

feredir has just caused an international incident!!!!!

Never a cop around when you need one . . . .

Lord Stanley's cup is coming back to Vancouver this season. Did you know (and you probably didn't) that a team called The Vancouver Millionaires won the Cup in 1915?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancouver_Millionaires" target="_blank

I knew that vison. And by the way, the cup is not going back to Vancouver. Bah to the Western Conference. The cup belongs in the East! It's going to Boston. I'm putting my money* on the Bruins.

*Note: this is not real money because I currently do not have any. Monopoly money.

Sf, what's the wager?

*We should move this Stanley Cup discussion to its own thread*

I have, thank the Lord never heard Rush Limbaugh nor the other Right Wing hate merchants like him, nor do I want to but I think I recognise the point being made.

Sure there are plenty of individuals spewng hatred on both sides and one can lead a pleasant life ignoring them. The essential point is to concentrate and contest the ones who have a mass audience. Should one allow hate to be expressed without trying to oppose it? In this country we have a tabloid press owned by foreign millionnaires with their own agendas. They are quite happy to try to topple a government (of the Right or the Left) if the owner so decides so get pandered to by the government. One, The Daily Mail, consistently runs anti immigrant or homophobic stories. Another, The Daily Express runs anti immigrant front page headlines on a virtually daily basis. Of course when an immigrant or gay is murdered by thugs as happens from time to time it just provides a side story to fill up a half column. Meanwhile the government introduces immigration rules purely in order to get sympathetic headlines.

They make me sick to my stomach and I feel powerless to do anything about them. It's their mass audience that makes them worthy of attention. Were they just the rantings of a small group one could follow Freddy's and elsha's advice.