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vison
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Posted: Mon 09 Nov , 2009 5:30 pm
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Ugh! I can't listen to this stuff. People talking on the radio drive me absolutely WILD! :bang: Just SHUT UP and play the music!

(I'm sorry. It really does make me insane. :( )

I want to hear the First Million Dollar Seller, but all they are doing is TALKING.

But, for the record, I can't stand Bruce Springsteen, so I'm not sad he's not on the list.
Jeez, Lalaith. I like the explanations. I don't think there would be any point to it for me if there wasn't dear old Harris talking. :D

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At least it's not Jürgen Goth... :scared:

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I know, vison. I'm so ashamed. :oops: But I have never been able to stand people talking on the radio, for whatever reason. It just is like nails on a chalkboard for me. It's why I don't listen to any talk radio; it's why I immediately change the station if the DJs start yapping. It's why I mostly listen to CDs in the car, actually!

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At least it's not Jürgen Goth... :scared:
Why didn't you like Jurgen Goth?

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He just went on and on and on....

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The next time any of you go to a live concert and the band plays a set lasting more than an hour, give credit to Springsteen for being one of the major people to change that practice. Regardless if you like his music or not, the man changed the live concert business for the better. Although I do have to admit that I would greatly prefer ten minutes of some entertainers to two-and-a-half hours of them. That group from Sweeden comes to mind right off the bat.

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Posted: Tue 10 Nov , 2009 11:26 am
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Just listened to #13, Gregorian chant, which has a personal resonance for me as a church musician...

The biggest significance of Gregoian chant is that it brought about the concept of notating music, of writing it down for the first time.

Harris pointed out something amazing which I had never thought about before:

The classical music tradition is a visual one - there are plenty of composers and musicians who lost their hearing but were able to continue composing and making music - Beethoven, Faure, Evelyn Glennie, etc., but no BLIND ones.

Compare that with the jazz/pop music tradition, which is an aural tradition: many musicians of those genres don't read music, they learn by ear - plenty of blind musicians to be found there - Art Tatum, Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder... but no DEAF ones. :cool:

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Posted: Tue 10 Nov , 2009 1:05 pm
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Music people often sneer at folk music, I find. Music people sneer at popular music in general.
I know of not a single musician for whom I have respect that would do such a thing. All of the great composers, particularly of the late 19th century acknowledged the importance of folk music and often used them. Look at Tchakovsky, Vaughan Williams, Janacek etc. Again, the idea of sneering at folk and 'pop' music is a very recent one, and one that is also quickly becoming unpopular again, for the betterment of all music, IMO.

Putting "Gregorian Chant" on that list is another thing which I have a big objection too. Plainchant is a style that spanned 5-7 centuries, and which itself evolved so many times, from simple melodies all the way up to the rich polyphonic textures of the early baroque. I recently bought a boxed set called "Sacred Music" giving a tiny snippet of the sacred music of Europe from the 9th century all the way up present day (including Leonard Bernstein, who wasn't European, as you probably know.) It consists of 30 CDs, the first 4 of which consist entirely of chant, and the following 2 of which consist of early music based on chant. Putting "Gregorian Chant" up as a thing is like putting, say "Rhyming Poetry" on a list of literature that changed the world.
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The classical music tradition is a visual one - there are plenty of composers and musicians who lost their hearing but were able to continue composing and making music - Beethoven, Faure, Evelyn Glennie, etc., but no BLIND ones.
This obviously doesn't include the French tradition: Vierne, Widor and Langlais were all blind, Vierne practically from birth, and he wrote some of the best French organ music we know of. Widor and Langlais were also visually impaired from a very young age. They each wrote a mass for double organ, and a number of Symphonies which were so popular they had to be transcribed for organ so that they could be regularly played at services.

My own counterpoint lecturer is 80% blind, and he has composed some exquisite pieces for choir and organ.

This big line that is drawn between so-called "classical" music and pretty much everything else is an absurd one to draw. In the words of Bernstein himself: "It's all music"

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Did they take the audio down? I can't listen to it. :scratch:


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Posted: Sat 14 Nov , 2009 10:53 pm
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Did they take the audio down? I can't listen to it. :scratch:
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It looks like it's down at the moment because the audio links aren't showing. I hope this is only temporary - I only got a chance to listen to the first two.

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Posted: Mon 16 Nov , 2009 3:43 pm
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What about Haydn? He invented the symphony...

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What about Crucifer? He set parts of the lolcat bible to music.


Or threatened to, anyway...

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Haven't got around to it yet. :P Got too much going on with 2 university choirs, one of which cannot know about the existence of the other, as it's subversive, and other stuff too. :p Like 2 hours in which to learn 5 and a half hours worth of Haydn symphonies...

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*swoons for Haydn*
Hey do you know his arrangements of Scottish and Welsh songs? I might be doing some of them in a concert next year...
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Got too much going on with 2 university choirs, one of which cannot know about the existence of the other, as it's subversive, and other stuff too.
Ooh, tell us more about that! :poke:

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There's this choir in the music department, and the concert last term was pulled because they were shit. They're supposedly a professionally run student choir, but it's totally not. Some of us were so pissed off that we set up our own consort, which is much better, simply because we haven't got a conductor with the charisma of a dead sheep. In fact, a dead sheep would have more charisma than this term's conductor.

*is a rebel* :p

Oh, and you may like Haydn, but having a listening test on the symphonies is so boring... :s

(I actually prefer Haydn to Mozart though...)

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Posted: Tue 17 Nov , 2009 2:22 pm
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But how can taking the initiative to form a new ensemble be considered a bad thing? :scratch: Lots of us in university formed impromptu musical groups - some of which continued, some of which were flashes-in-the-pan. But they always encouraged us to do so.

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Yes, but I basically took the good people from the other departmental choir, and the people I didn't ask will resent that. But to be honest, I don't really care...

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