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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Question 1
A. I approve this text, and it can be moved to Routine Powers

Question 2:
A. I approve this text

Question 3:
A. I approve all six points

Question 4:
A. I agree to the seven-day minimum

Question 5:
A. I approve all five points

Question 6:
A. I approve this text

Question 7:
A. I agree to all three requirements

Question 8: Time limit before a hearing can be convened to reverse a ban
A. Two weeks
B. One month
C. Six months
D. One year
E. Other (specify by adding the number)

RANK YOUR CHOICES, with #1 being most preferred.
#1= C
#2= D
#3= E (3 months)
#4= B
#5= A

Question 9:
A. I agree with this provision

Question 10:
A. I agree with this provision

Question 11:
A. I approve this text


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Question 1: Admins have power to Edit Posts
• if they affect the display of the page, e.g. stretched pages, after notifying the poster

SELECT ONE
A. I approve this text, and it can be moved to Routine Powers


Question 2: Admins have power to Edit Posts
• if they contain objectionable content, for example: abuse of another poster, defamatory remarks, pornographic, violent or distasteful content, or advertisement of products


B. I do not approve this text

Question 3: Admins have power to enact an Immediate Ban for the following offenses if the poster has registered within the last [seven days] you will vote on the seven days in question 4



A. I approve all six points


Question 4: ... if the poster has registered within the last [seven days]

B. I prefer a minimum of 21 days.

Question 5:
Admins have power to temporarily suspend posting rights or restrict access to a forum


B. I wish to exclude point #5

Question 6: Admins have power to convene a hearing on a ban
• Whenever a bannable offense is called to their attention.

SELECT ONE
A. I approve this text


Question 7: Admins have power to convene a hearing to reverse a ban if the following three conditions are met:


A. I agree to all three requirements


Question 8: Time limit before a hearing can be convened to reverse a ban


RANK YOUR CHOICES, with #1 being most preferred.
#1= E. Case by case basis.
#2= A
#3= B
#4= C
#5= D

Question 9: Procedures for using special and emergency powers
• An immediate ban is of unspecified duration. A Hearing must be convened to reverse it.

A. I agree with this provision


Question 10: When posting rights are suspended, an arbitration must be held and the jury will decide the duration of the suspension, not to exceed the maximum duration specified here: you will vote on maximum durations in question 10


A. I agree with this provision


Question 11: Extraordinary Powers of Admins

A. I approve this text

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truehobbit
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Question 1: Admins have power to Edit Posts

A. I approve this text, and it can be moved to Routine Powers


Question 2: Admins have power to Edit Posts

A. I approve this text


Question 3:
B. I wish to exclude point(s) [4]

(LOL, looking at this again, I realised that in case of No. 4 happening, No. 6 will always apply, so there's no immediate ban for No. 4 anyway. So, the exclusion is for cosmetic reasons mainly, I don't disagree with A (if there's a 7-day minimum). :D )

Question 4: ... if the poster has registered within the last [seven days]

A. I agree to the seven-day minimum


Question 5:
A. I approve all five points


Question 6:
A. I approve this text


Question 7:

A. I agree to all three requirements


Question 8: Time limit before a hearing can be convened to reverse a ban

RANK YOUR CHOICES, with #1 being most preferred.
#1= A
#2= B
#3= E (three months)
#4= C
#5= D

Question 9:
A. I agree with this provision


Question 10: When posting rights are suspended, an arbitration must be held and the jury will decide the duration of the suspension, not to exceed the maximum duration specified here:

A. I agree with this provision

you will vote on maximum durations in question 10 ????? :scratch

Question 11: Extraordinary Powers of Admins

A. I approve this text

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Question 1: A.

Question 2: A.

Question 3: A.

Question 4: A.

Question 5: A.

Question 6: A.

Question 7: A.

Question 8:
#1= A
#2= B
#3= E [6 weeks]
#4= C
#5= D

Question 9: A.

Question 10: A.

Question 11: A.

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Question 1:
A. I approve this text, and it can be moved to Routine Powers

Question 2:
A. I approve this text

Question 3:
A. I approve all six points

Question 4:
A. I agree to the seven-day minimum

Question 5:
A. I approve all five points

Question 6:
A. I approve this text

Question 7:
A. I agree to all three requirements

Question 8:
#1= C
#2= E (three months)
#3= D
#4= B
#5= A

Question 9:
A. I agree with this provision

Question 10:
A. I agree with this provision

Question 11:
A. I approve this text


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Faramond
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Question 1: A

Question 2: A

Question 3: A

Question 4: A

Question 5: B (4)

Question 6: A

Question 7: A

Question 8:

#1 - E (two months)
#2 - B
#3 - C
#4 - A
#5 - D

Question 9: A

Question 10: A

Question 11: A


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Question 1:

A. I approve this text, and it can be moved to Routine Powers


Question 2:

B. I do not approve this text

Question 3:

A. I approve all six points


Question 4:

B. I prefer a minimum of [14] days. Please fill in the number of days you prefer

Question 5:

A. I approve all five points


Question 6:

A. I approve this text


Question 7:

A. I agree to all three requirements


Question 8:

#1=B
#2=A
#3=C
#4=D
#5=E

Question 9:

A. I agree with this provision


Question 10:

A. I agree with this provision

Question 11:

A. I approve this text

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1. A
2. B
3. A
4. A
5. B (2 - I object to the restriction of board wide posting rights, but agree with the restriction from the jury room)
6. A
7. A
8.
#1=E (three months)
#2=C
#3=B
#4=D
#5= A

9. A
10. A
11. A

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Question 1:
A. I approve this text, and it can be moved to Routine Powers

Question 2:
A. I approve this text

Question 3:

A. I approve all six points

Question 4:
A. I agree to the seven-day minimum

Question 5:
A. I approve all five points

Question 6:
A. I approve this text

Question 7:
A. I agree to all three requirements

Question 8:

A. Two weeks
B. One month
C. Six months
D. One year
E. Other (specify by adding the number)

RANK YOUR CHOICES, with #1 being most preferred.
#1=C
#2=B
#3=A
#4=D
#5=E - depends on the nature of the ban

Question 9:
A. I agree with this provision

Question 10:
A. I agree with this provision

Question 11:
A. I approve this text

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Voting Results:

Question 1: A=12 ;B=0; C=0
Question 2: A=8 ;B=4
Question 3: A=11 ;B=1
Question 4: A=10 ;B=2
Question 5: A=9 ;B=3
Question 6: A=12 ;B=0
Question 7: A=11 ;B=1
Question 9: A=11 ;B=1
Question 10: A=12 ;B=0
Question 11: A=12 ;B=0

Text is in the next post.

And now for Question 8. This was a tie between One Month (B) and Other (E). There were multiple answers to the fill in number on option E, but for the majority of those who voted E, their fill-in was greater than one month, and all who picked one month as their first choice had a second choice greater than one month. More than two thirds of the voter wanted a minimum between one month and three months, and an additional two voters wanted the admins to have discretion. So I would like to propose the following compromise text, and give us a few days to discuss it.

For the time limit before a hearing can be convened to reverse a ban: at least one month, and admins can extend this at their discretion but not beyond three months.

Jn

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Moved to ¶4. Routine Powers of Admins
• Admins have power to edit posts if they affect the display of the page, e.g. stretched pages, after notifying the poster

¶5. Special and Emergency Powers of Admins
• Admins have power to Edit Posts if they contain objectionable content, for example: abuse of another poster, defamatory remarks, pornographic, violent or distasteful content, or advertisement of products
• Admins have power to enact an Immediate Ban for the following offenses if the poster has registered within the last seven days:
1. Spamming the board with ads
2. Spamming the board with porn
3. Hacking the board
4. Refusing to abide by the Decision of Jury in an Arbitration
5. Threats of real life violence or other criminal acts against members
6. In all other cases the poster has the Right to a Hearing, and if the poster registered more than seven days ago they are considered a member of the community and have a right to a hearing for these offenses as well, but their posting rights will be restricted to the Jury Room for the duration of the hearing.
•Admins have power to temporarily suspend posting rights or restrict access to a forum:
1. In the Invite Forum, if information about the contents of an invitation thread has been revealed to a non-member, access can be suspended [this provision becomes void if the Invite Forum is removed]
2. In the Jury Room, if poster has interfered with an Arbitration or Hearing on a Ban, board-wide posting rights can be suspended until the Arbitration or Hearing is concluded
3. In the There and Back Again forum, if more than one complaint has been made against the way an RP identity has been used, posting rights can be suspended until an arbitration can be held regarding the continuation of that identity.
4. In the Thinking of England Forum, if more than one complaint has been made about the way a poster has been posting there, posting rights can be suspended until an arbitration can be held to determine the right of continued access to that forum.
5. If a sig pic is arguably pornographic, violent or distasteful it can be removed. If the poster persists in reposting it, posting rights outside the Jury Room can be suspended until an arbitration decision is reached.
• Admins have power to convene a hearing on a ban whenever a bannable offense is called to their attention.
• Admins have power to convene a hearing to reverse a ban if the following three conditions are met:
1. if the duration of the ban was not specified
2. the banned poster has requested a new hearing in writing.
3. at least one month has elapsed since the ban went into effect. Admins can postpone a requested hearing longer but not more than three months see note in previous post

Procedures for using special and emergency powers
• An immediate ban is of unspecified duration. A Hearing must be convened to reverse it.
• When posting rights are suspended, an arbitration must be held and the jury will decide the duration of the suspension, not to exceed the maximum duration specified here:

Extraordinary Powers of Admins
Recognizing that unforeseen events may occur which require a quick response, Board77 administrators are expected to use their best judgment in emergencies, and to take whatever action they believe necessary to protect the board. An emergency would be an event which threatened real and immediate harm, but which is not otherwise addressed by this charter. In such an event, the administrator(s) in question would be expected to explain the circumstances and consult with the board membership as soon as possible. Such measures are temporary by their nature and subject to review by [some body as yet to be determined.]

SELECT
=12 A. I approve this text
=0 B. I do not approve this text



=6 B. One month = 6

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Question 1:

A. I approve this text, and it can be moved to Routine Powers

Question 2:

A. I approve this text

Question 3:

A. I approve all six points

Question 4:

A. I approve all five points

Question 6:

A. I approve this text

Question 7:

A. I agree to all three requirements

Question 8:

#1=A
#2=B
#3=C
#4=D
#5=E

Question 9:

SELECT
A. I agree with this provision

Question 10:

SELECT
A. I agree with this provision

Question 11:

SELECT
A. I approve this text


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Admins have power to convene a hearing to reverse a ban if the following three conditions are met:

1. if the duration of the ban was not specified
2. the banned poster has requested a new hearing in writing.
3. at least one month has elapsed since the ban went into effect. Admins can postpone a requested hearing longer but not more than three months
:) 12 A. I approve this text

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Fair enough. Obviously I voted for no time limit but I'll accept the above as a good representation of the feelings of the majority.

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Lord M, as I said in the other thread, you voted after the vote was over so I can keep this on record but technically cannot include it in the tally. You are not the only person who did not vote on one or more of the votes, and thought these votes might well have spared us some confusion because of the lack of a simple majority, if people are able to cast their vote after results have been published it throws everything into confusion. No one would know when the count actualy counts, you see.

Alatar - I too voted for a time limit shorter than one month, but only 3 people (25%) did so, and that is why I feel that a minimum of one month is a justifiable compromise. Similarly, no one voted for any time limit longer than 3 months, either in the options offered or the ones we wrote in. So 3 months is plainly the upper limit. The only question is whether people are comfortable giving the discretion to the admins. If there are no loud objections, we'll just go with that.

Faramond and I have been discussing this vote and we're not in complete agreement about how the choices should be interpreted ... but the members at large are going to have a crack at it, and the clauses that passed by a plurality will be so noted, and I've got record of all the alternatives we discussed and that people voted for, so ... if any of these clauses get pulled because of disagreement by the membership, we'll at least have solid ground for later discussion. We'll know what the sticking points were, and what things were absolutely rejected by the committee.

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I voted two weeks for my first option, a month for second and for third I voted option E - I suggested three months because the next option was six months, so I just thought of something in between. If I'd thought of it, I'd have suggested 6 weeks, like, I think, Jny did.

So, clearly, I also think that three months is the upper limit. One month isn't so much more than two weeks, so that's ok, too. I think the admins discretion is a fair enough compromise to include those who wanted more than one month.

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