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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Thanks, Din, and sorry for the confusion. It was entirely my fault.


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Here are the final results, by my count (Cerin, please correct me if I am wrong):

Question 1
A=14
B=1

Question 2
A=12
B=3

Question 3
A=12
B=2
1 abstention

Question 4
A=15
B=0

Question 5
A=9
C=6

Question 6
A=15
B=0

Question 7
A=10
B=5

Question 8
A=4
B=11

Question 9
A=15
B=0

Question 10
A=8
B=7

Here is the final text of Member's Rights and Responsibilities that I will put to the membership for discussion and ratification. Please let me know if anything seems amiss.
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Article 2: Member Rights and Responsibilities
Some rights and responsibilities are enforceable by procedures and penalties outlined in the Charter; others rest on the determination of all members to observe them. All are essential to our purpose of building a vibrant, diverse, supportive community where both conversation and signature pictures reflect our personalities, our humor, our genuine opinions, our artistic appreciation, our creativity, and above all our mutual friendship.

¶1: Rights and responsibilities enforceable by procedures and penalties outlined in the Charter

A. You have the right:


1. To post under one registered screen name if you are 13 years of age or older.

2. To create and register characters for use in the There and Back Again forum (a role-play forum). They must be recorded in the RP Character Registry. LINK

3. To post in our Thinking of England forum (a forum restricted to those who are 18 years of age or older) once you have met the eligibility requirements

4. To address personal disputes in the Bike Racks forum, and in other forums to post free of disruptions caused by the personal disputes of others.

5. To post in languages other than English in threads, ranks or signature texts.

6. To post without confronting advertising spam, pornographic pictures, sexually explicit conversation outside of the age-restricted forum, and pictures or conversations of an offensively violent or distasteful nature.

7. To a Hearing if you are accused of violating the by-laws; to appeal a Hearing under certain circumstances; to petition for the reversal of a ban under certain circumstances. You must abide by the decisions of our juries and use proper procedure when contesting the decisions of administrators or jurors. Refer to Article 4 of our Charter for a full explanation of your rights under any dispute procedure.

8. To petition the administrators for redress if you believe that your other rights have been violated.

B. You have the Responsibility:

9. To provide a valid email address and to state truthfully your age for board access or entry into any forum with age restrictions.

10. To refrain from personal attacks or intentional insults that target another member's nationality, ethnicity, religion, native language, gender, age or sexual orientation, to remove any unintentional insults of this nature upon request, and to refrain from using a foreign language to conceal insults of this nature.

11. To role-play within the guidelines set by the story originator, and in a way that does not prevent other characters from participating or unnecessarily stifle the creative options of other posters.

12. To post prudently in the Thinking of England forum and not expose yourself to unnecessary harm. That forum should be free of ridicule, provocation, or demeaning posts and you should report violations to the administrators. You must also refrain from maliciously spreading information posted by others in that forum.

13. To keep your posts free of gratuitous advertising, spam that would annoy any reasonable person, and pictures that would disgust or dismay any reasonable person.

14. To refrain from inflicting damage on the board or the internet access of its members, either deliberately or through negligence, by hacking or introducing viruses.

15. To refrain from using PM capability to harrass other members of the board.

16. To refrain from soliciting or encouraging the participation of members in illegal activities; but this does not impinge on your right to speak freely about the shortcomings, ethical or practical, of any given law.

17. To refrain from threatening real life violence or other criminal acts against other members.

¶2: Rights and responsibilities that rest on the determination of all members to keep Board77 a pleasant place for all to post but are not enforceable by procedures and penalties outlined in the Charter.

You have the right:


18. To be treated with courtesy and respect by all posters regardless of their status, and the responsibility to treat others likewise.

19. To express your thoughts on any topic, as long as you post with respect, forbearance and consideration for the context, the feelings of others, the value of contrasting viewpoints, and without making personal attacks against other posters.

20. To use adult language that is generally acceptable in written media or adult conversation, along with the responsibility to refrain from unnecessary cursing or obscenities. We encourage everyone to use language that is clear and contributory (not spam or netspeak) without our having to restrict the expressions that are generally found in adult conversation.

21. To address a personal dispute with another member in the Bike Racks forum if the other member agrees. You are also entitled to mediation. It is your responsibility to resolve your own personal disputes in a productive fashion, and not to interfere with other members who are doing the same.

22. To serve as an administrator, mediator or juror and to run for elected office. It is also your responsibility to participate in the governance of the board whether simply by voting when a quorum is needed, or by serving in some official capacity.

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Looks good Voronwe!

(Can we open yet?)

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Al, regrettably I now believe that even my secret goal of being open before the end of June may not be met.

But I'm still going to try.


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It looks good to me, Voronwe, except for a comma that I had requested be added after 'status'.


18. To be treated with courtesy and respect by all posters regardless of their status, and the responsibility to treat others likewise.


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I think that I can manage that. :)


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Alatar wrote:
Looks good Voronwe!

(Can we open yet?)
All of what we hav done must be ratified by the membership, no?

When is that next step going to occur?

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Voronwe - I can't move the ballot + results into the ballot archive thread or add the new text to the actual document thread until tomorrow. Today is just too busy for me. If the one day makes a difference in our overall time frame, you can undertake to do any of that yourself - I don't mind at all - and begin the ratification process.

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I don't think it matters to the overall schedule whether the ratification discussion starts today or tomorrow. If it starts tomorrow it will run until Friday, 10 June, and the vote until Monday, 20 June (10 days including two weekends). If it starts today we'll still be constrained to run the vote until 20 June; there will just be an extra day of discussion.

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Thanks, Prim. I'll be back to this late tonight (east coast). I think the summary of Article 5 is finished being modified. It just needs an intro paragraph at the beginning with big bold letters are controversy. I can do that tomorrow morning, or an admin can do it anytime today.

Voronwe can set up the ratification vote for member rights, and the approval of name change (if any) for admins.

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I thought I posted this already, but it doesn't seem to be there.

By my calculations, the discussion threads need to be started by midnight GMT in order for it to end by midnight on Saturday June 11 and ensure that there are no complaints that we did not include two full weekends.

If that is not correct, please let me know. :)

Jn, I would prefer that you started the discussion on Dispute Resolution, but if you can't get to it by then, I'll go ahead and do it. Unless my calculations are not correct. :)


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Midnight tonight (31 May) to midnight Friday 10 June (not Saturday) is ten days. But I think a "full weekend" has to include both Saturday and Sunday, so I guess you're right, Voronwe—midnight tonight GMT it is, or 5 PM our time.

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There's no way for me to get to it by 8:00pm EST. I'm standing in a classroom between now and then (leaving in ~ 5 minutes)

If you want it to go up by 5:00 pm California time, I'll have to ask one of you guys to do it.

I can do it by 11:00 pm ....but not before.

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I don't think the extra few hours should matter, but then I didn't think that rounding up 79.7% to 80% should have mattered either. I'll go ahead and take care of it. :)


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I have posted the approved text in the "Actual Document So Far" thread and begun the member ratification discussion.


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Bully! :cool: :hug:

Voronwe, may I ask you to please consider either enlarging or bolding (or both) this portion of your ratification posts, and including the suggested addition?
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If there are parts of the text that are very controversial, we will remove them before the ratification vote and save them for more detailed discussion with the membership later on. So please express your opinions freely (you will not hurt our feelings).
I made this observation recently in another thread, and this is the reason for my request:
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I recall a short time ago (I can't remember where), it became evident that some people didn't realize that controversial provisions would be removed from the proposed portion of the Charter up for ratification. In other words, they thought that if they found something objectionable, they had to vote against the whole proposed segment being ratified, and they thought that doing that would be an insult to the committee and mean we had wasted our time. So essentially, it was expressed that they felt they had to support the Charter since we have put so much time and work into it.

So I would suggest making it very clear in the introductory post that portions that garner significant objection will be removed, and will not sink the balance of what is proposed, and that we actually want to hear from people if they object to certain portions of the proposed articles.


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Hi Cerin. :) I actually gave quite a bit of consideration to your comments before I started these threads. I'm sorry but I don't agree that it is either necessary or desireable to do that. The post states as clear as can be that controversial portions will be removed. Everyone here can read well. But I do not want to over-emphasize that point.

As for saying "you will not hurt our feelings" I believe that that is completely unnecessary. I believe that there were no major objections to the last part of the charter put up for ratification not because people were afraid of hurting our feelings but rather because there really were no major objections. As evidenced by the overwhelming vote in favor. Not only do I think it is unnecessary, to be quite frank, I would consider it a bit insulting if it were said to me.

If people really have major objections to anything being discussed, they should certainly say so. But it is their responsibility to do so. I don't think it is necessary to do anything more to nudge them along.

However, you are certainly welcome to remind people of this fact in any way in which you wish to do so. :)

Cerin, please feel free to contact me privately if you want to discuss this further.


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Voronwe_the_Faithful wrote:
I believe that there were no major objections to the last part of the charter put up for ratification not because people were afraid of hurting our feelings but rather because there really were no major objections.
Actually, V, one person did say that they felt they couldn't vote against the charter because it would be hurtful to the committee.

Since we know the part about controversial parts being removed was overlooked by at least one member last time, I thought it wouldn't hurt to emphasize that portion of the directions this time, to be sure everyone noticed it. Better safe than sorry, as they say.

But I will say no more about it. :)


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