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Just have it say continental USA, Anth.

Hm ... I see where this might be open to multiple interpretations.

Clause 21 is in the "unenforceable" section of the Article ... things we strive to provide but cannot enforce under the charter.

When we wrote "you are entitled to Mediation" what we meant was that a list of Mediators would be made available in the Bike Racks Forum. The Article that concerns Mediation, Article 5: Dispute Resolution in the Outside Forum, ¶1 The Bike Racks Forum says that all parties have to agree on a single Mediator.

So I think that if the question arose, the Charter answers it definitively enough - all parties would have to agree to mediate before they would agree on a mediator - but this is probably one of those places where the members might PM one of the loremasters and ask what the rules really are if one person wanted mediation and the other did not.

Jn

No.

I'm just going to say it's a road sign.

So there.

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*forgets who the hell she's talking to*

I'll need to make this more clear... I was standing near the southernmost point of the continental USA, and the "end" of US1 is also the BEGINNING of US1 ('cause I know you'll bring that up, too, detail boy) and I really am the one in the middle.

I'm pretty sure.



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No, I'd never quibble with end and beginning of a road ... a journey has a beginning and an end, but a road has two ends. Sorry, Anth, I'm not trying to spoil your fun ... it's a great picture no matter what.

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I had the exact same thought about islands and continents, Jn.

Anth, I never ever said that you had to call it the beginning of the road too ... I never mentioned anything about that! That was all you! You're the detail-oriented geek there!



Back on topic, if it says elsewhere in the charter that all members in a dispute must agree to a single mediator to have mediation, then I think that would have to trump any interpretation of this clause meaning a member had a responsibility to agree to mediation. In other words if the question came up the Loremaster would be able to resolve the situation clearly based on other text.

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You're the detail-oriented geek there!

Why, thank you, kind sir. High praise indeed, coming from you...





Actually, there was a sign on the other side of the street which had the word "begin" at the top of the sign, and my friends and I commented on the almost poetic implication of such a thing...


Back on topic: I agree.




Edit: To correct an inprecision.

Anth, it's a metaphor for Life and the Universe and All That.

Jn

off topic 'cause she missed all the fun:

Faramond Teh Detail Maniac ( doesn't matter what he said, he is a details guy )'s current avatar is cropped from a photo of him standing at the southmost point of the continent of Africa. So there's some neat symmetry in the fact that Anth's ( EDIT: siggie pic before the monster attacks me for being imprecise as well ) come from far south down the USA continental territory

Faramond wrote:

Back on topic, if it says elsewhere in the charter that all members in a dispute must agree to a single mediator to have mediation, then I think that would have to trump any interpretation of this clause meaning a member had a responsibility to agree to mediation. In other words if the question came up the Loremaster would be able to resolve the situation clearly based on other text.

Contextually the interpretation is clear in any case - the Charter nuance is generally to find agreement and against compulsion, particularly in disputes between individuals where we have blatantly stated that others should stay out unless invited.

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Faramond Teh Detail Maniac ( doesn't matter what he said, he is a details guy )'s current avatar is cropped from a photo of him standing at the southmost point of the continent of Africa. So there's some neat symmetry in the fact that Anth's ( EDIT: siggie pic before the monster attacks me for being imprecise as well ) come from far south down the USA continental territory

WOW! That is intensely cool, Griff. And completely unexpected... I didn't know where that pic of Faradetailmonster was taken!

Jn.... well said. It's odd how much unintended poetry... and unintended humor!.... there is in the world.


Okay, sorry folks for distracting this conversation with my siggie pic and weak-assed captions.

Imp, again I agree. You folks are going to hear this so often that the impact will probably be somewhat watered down for you, but you have truly done a great job with all of this.

I wish I had volunteered for the committee. You few have really borne more than your share of the work around here!

Your time will come.

ACK!





And when that time does come, I can only aspire to a shadow of what you've done, Big V-man. You rock!

Excellent idea, Anth, letting the picture speak for itself.

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Key West is also known as the Last Resort, the Southernmost Point in the continental U.S. Key West is whatever you want it to be. You can hide out in a tucked away guesthouse, walk the beach and watch a beautiful sunset, or dance all night and peruse Duval Street in downtown Key West.

http://www.floridakeys.com/

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/tips/get ... onNo==4233

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... y_west.htm

Just sayin' is all.

Just makes me want to go on back there...

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