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Do you approve the amendment to Article 6?
Yes 76%  76%  [ 45 ]
No 24%  24%  [ 14 ]
Total votes : 59
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Eh, peyote makes you throw up. Just get the mescaline, it's a lot smoother going down.

So I'm told.

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I am awed by the depth of theoretical knowledge on display here. :Q

No doubt if one were to ask a question about politics at the court of one of the early T'ang Dynasty emperors one would receive similarly complete and erudite explanations.

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Well, if I had any inclination in that direction, which I do not, and have not for many years (I want to make sure I don't get myself in trouble again), I would stick with a nice small dose of pure, unadulterated lysergic acid diethylamide.


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:Q


So... is the next topic Rock 'N' Roll?

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Sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll. Oh yeah. And, a great style osgiliation. :P

After all, I decided to drag my ass to the voting booth, not that it means anything anymore.

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After all, I decided to drag my ass to the voting booth, not that it means anything anymore.


Au contraire. All votes have meaning.

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And this vote is not nearly as one-sided as many of them have been, at 78% it is still possible that enough votes could be cast to defeat the amendment. The more votes, either yes or no, the better. :)


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Voronwë_the_Faithful wrote:
And this vote is not nearly as one-sided as many of them have been, at 78% it is still possible that enough votes could be cast to defeat the amendment.


*is praying that won't happen*

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If this doesn't pass, I'm afraid the ToE stuff won't be over. :neutral:

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Eru - For the amendment to pass, I believe there has to be a 2/3 majority, right? If 37 = 2/3, 1/3 would equal 18. The "no" votes would have to reach 19 for the amendment to be shot down as the numbers stand now - I really hope that won't happen :pray:


Thanks to Steve for explaining the numbers to me.

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Prim wrote:
I am awed by the depth of theoretical knowledge on display here.


Theoretical? Hmmphh.

While we wait for the votes to continue coming in, here's some more info related to peyote. :halo:

The Huichol people of Mexico use peyote for many religious and "milestone" social ceremonies. Their art is very often "peyote inspired".

Real peyote, and as it is depicted in Huichol art.

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What the camera sees, and what the Huichol see:

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A picture depicting a shaman's peyote ritual:

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And what is so mind-boggling to me is that these pictures are all made from either yarn or beads. :Q Seen "up close and personal", they are just staggering in their detail, colour, and design. A small group of Huichol often visits the coastal town in Mexico where we vacation, and watching them piece together these works is fascinating.

Oh yeah, and the Huichol also had a very interesting childbirth tradition (although I've only seen references to it in writings on their past history, so who knows if it's still in practice today). The husband/father-to-be would seat himself above his labouring wife on a sort of scaffold contraption. String would be tied around his testicles and every time the woman felt a contraction, she would pull on the string, thus making the pain of childbirth a shared experience for both partners. :cool:

I now return you to the vote in progress. :)

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String would be tied around his testicles and every time the woman felt a contraction, she would pull on the string, thus making the pain of childbirth a shared experience for both partners.


And they're not extinct yet? Man, maybe peyote DOES confer superhuman abilities...:D

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The T’ang dynasty of China ruled from 618 to 907. It was founded by Li Yuan and his son Li Shih-min, with the aid of Turkish allies. The early strength of the T’ang was built directly upon the excellent system of communications and administration established by the Sui. At first the neighboring peoples, nomadic and civilized, were held in check, and by the mid-7th cent. the T’ang occupied or controlled large portions of Manchuria, Mongolia, Tibet, and Turkistan. During the T’ang China was open to foreign ideas and developed trade with neighboring countries and Central Asia. While the introduction of foreign music and dances enriched the T’ang culture, the Chinese Confucian culture and administrative system had profound influence in Korea, Japan, and Vietnam. Sculpture flourished (T’ang horses are especially noted) and the painting (of which few examples have survived) is considered superior. In literature poetry was the most highly developed form; Li Po (701–62), Tu Fu (712–70), and Po Chu-I (772–846) were the most distinguished poets. The classics of Confucianism were closely studied and provided the basis for the civil-service examinations that were to assume great importance later. Although religious toleration was usually practiced, foreign cults were sometimes proscribed; Buddhism was suppressed in the Hu-chiang period, and many Buddhist monasteries were dissolved, at great profit to the state treasury. The high-water mark of territorial expansion and political unity was reached during the reign of Emperor Hsuan Tsung (712–56). Defeat by the Arabs at the Talas River in W Turkistan (751) checked T’ang ambitions in the west, and the costly struggle against the An Lu-shan rebellion (755–63) finally exhausted the empire. Warlord governors turned many provinces into autonomous personal domains. The vigor of the early T’ang administration quickly declined, and control over border regions was lost, especially to the Uigurs, who became dominant in Mongolia. In the 9th cent. local maladministration became widespread, and revolts broke out in the south and in Tibet. After the T’ang collapse there was great disorder until the establishment of the Sung dynasty in 960.


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Tang mixes well with gin. :cheers:


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As does kool aid, which is the reason I haven't been able to drink gin since I was 19 years old :drunk: :sick:

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Gin is nasty.

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Oh yeah, and the Huichol also had a very interesting childbirth tradition (although I've only seen references to it in writings on their past history, so who knows if it's still in practice today). The husband/father-to-be would seat himself above his labouring wife on a sort of scaffold contraption. String would be tied around his testicles and every time the woman felt a contraction, she would pull on the string, thus making the pain of childbirth a shared experience for both partners.


What an excellent idea! :P

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I've heard this before. I don't know where, but I do remember thinking at the time that this was a very progressive idea. ;)

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Oh, I love gin. :) Never thought about mixing it with Kool-Aid though, but I imagine if it goes well with that it would also be good for Jello shots.

Co-incidentally (or not):

Voronwë_the_Faithful wrote:
In literature poetry was the most highly developed form; Li Po (701–62), Tu Fu (712–70), and Po Chu-I (772–846) were the most distinguished poets.


You left out GZA, RZA, and Ol' Dirty Bastard.


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Tang does mix well with gin. My friend and I made Tang Surprise once. The surprise was bathtub gin.

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