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Right. Butter does not improve lutefisk.

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Does too.

That's how the Norwegians eat it.

The Swedes slather it in white sauce. :sick:

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Right. Butter does not improve lutefisk.

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Does too.

That's how the Norwegians eat it.

The Swedes slather it in white sauce. :sick:


All Swedes are perverts. Only those who are seriously twisted would use white sauce on lutefisk.

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Norwegians can put butter on lutefisk to their little Viking hearts' content, but does that improve it?

Bechamel sauce is too delicate for fish, in my opinion. I tried in once on cod and was gravy disappointed.

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Jn, be honest: how would you go about "improving" lutefisk?

I think drawn butter is about the best that can be done. I would say garlic butter, the improver of all, except that I'm not sure how well it goes with cod (Norwegians never having heard of garlic and all).

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Jn, be honest: how would you go about "improving" lutefisk?

Why I think that having the Griffon jump up and down on it and thwap it with her tail is about the best idea anyone has come up with so far. :D

Who came up with that idea, anyway?

Seriously, I've never eaten lutefisk. Never even seen it in real life. It is highly unlikely that I would eat a lutefisk if I encountered one, because I'm not in general a fan of fish.

The pictures of lutefisk make me think of albino gefilte fish. I would eat, on Passover, one grain of gefilte fish buried in a saucerfull of horseradish, just to be polite, until I was head of my own household and could banish gefilte fish entirely from the menu. Voronwe and I agree that the expression, "Oi Vey!" was invented by the first Jew to be confronted by gefilte fish.

Something about those Baltic countries and battered fish ... one wants to hit the fish on the plate one more time to make sure it isn't hiding something.

If our posters of Viking descent start to feel that the lutefisk is bearing too great a burden as the sole butt of our jokes, it is perfectly fine with me if we dance barefoot on little patties of gefilte fish as well. In such a case, when Anthy loads her cannon she has my permission to use real bullets.

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Lutefisk isn't battered, anyway—no batter would stick to it.

And the Viking-ancestor crowd would, I hope, be first in line to poke fun.

No, lutefisk is a fair target and a perfectly suitable subject for a b77 festival. IMNSHO.

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I just hope it's clear we're not poking fun at Norwegians.

Germans eat something called rollmops ... I'm not sure of the spelling because I've never seen it written, only heard it talked about, and seen it eaten of course ... Hobby probably knows the formal name ... anyway, it's a flap of raw, pickled fish rolled into a little tube and stuck on a short skewer. They sell them from kiosks and people walk along the street eating them ...

I have to look the other way, it so turns my stomach ... another candidate for: Foods I'd Rather Dance on Than Eat

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p.s. not "battered" as in "cooked in batter;" "battered" as in "battered housewife." I don't know if you're familiar with gefilte fish, but it looks as if Jeffrey Dahmer got there first.

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Voronwe and I agree that the expression, "Oi Vey!" was invented by the first Jew to be confronted by gefilte fish.


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Hey.....I LIKE pickled herring! And I'm not German, or Jewish for that matter!

I've eaten rollmops, which taste best when dipped in a sour cream sauce, but my favorite is pickled herring in wine marinade. A bottle of it is rather expensive here in Canada, so my family will often give me one as a Christmas stocking stuffer.


YUM!!! :Wooper:

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I guess me and fish just don't get along together.

Perch or cod, gently baked or battered (in the marinade sense) ... I would eat that before I was vegetarian ... but anything that isn't cooked .... :help:

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Is the lutefisk not cooked? :sick:

From what I've read, trying to improve the taste of the lutefisk in any way is a waste of good butter. Or as my Dad always said (regarding poker), 'Don't throw good money after bad.'


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Lutefisk is boiled. But what you start with is a gray, translucent jelly shot through with black, and when you're done it's a warm, gray, translucent jelly shot through with black (and the whole house reeks).

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What grave offense has the cod committed to be treated thus? This is what I wonder.


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I think a lot of bizarre ethnic foods are poverty foods.

With lutefisk, the lye soak and boiling are to make dried cod edible. The dried cod is as hard and stiff as wood—it has to be literally sawed into pieces small enough to work with. No amount of boiling can make it edible. You need the lye to break down the proteins and soften it.

But these "boards" of cod were a way to preserve food before refrigeration, and people depended on them to survive.

Eating sheep's heads—same thing. Waste not, want not. Food is food. Tripe, haggis, tongue, Rocky Mountain oysters. . . . Even intestines get used as sausage casings.

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Yes, that's right.

Humans can live just about anywhere on earth because they can eat just about anything on earth.

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Do people really like it? Or is it the tradition that people like?


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I think in the case of those lutefisk dinners at Christmastime, it's an immigrant thing. Immigrants were not rich as a rule, and those "poverty" foods were "home" foods to many of them. Comforting—even sources of sentimental pleasure. So what was subsistence food in the old country became ceremonial, celebratory food in the new one.

I still say it's gray goo, and I still say to heck with it. :P Can't wait to begin hurling . . . lutefisk.

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With sentimental pleasure. :D


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I am thinking Saturday, November 5 for the Festival. Starting at 5:00 pm EST?

That's Hal's and TTBK's birthday. :) The following weekend is the moot, assuming that Liddy and Estel have power back by then. I don't believe in long planning periods so I'm thinking before rather than after.

Are there objections to this date and time?

I'll ask tinwe to put it in the first post as well.

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I will be here and prepared to carry out my ceremonial role! :D

Or so I expect.

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