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Jnyusa
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My vote:

Question #1:
#1 = E
#2 = D
#3= F
#4= C
#5= B
#6= A

Question #2:
#1 = B
#2 = A
#3= D
#4= E
#5= C

Question #3:
#1 = C
#2 = B
#3= F
#4= G
#5= D
#6= H
#7= E
#8 = A

Question #4:
#1 = A

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Leoba
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Question #1: How long should the board be allowed to discuss the pieces of the constitution that we put up for discussion?

#1 = E
#2 = D
#3= C
#4= F
#5= B
#6= A

Question #2: When the discussion ends and the board votes on whether or not to accept the piece of the constitution presented to them, how long should the approval vote run?

#1 = B
#2 = A
#3= D
#4= E
#5= C

Question #3: What percentage of the voting members must approve the constitution in order for it to be accepted:

#1 = C
#2 = G
#3= D
#4= B
#5= F
#6= E
#7= A
#8 = H

Question #4: Who should be counted for purposes of determing a quorum?

#1 = A

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Faramond
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Question #1: How long should the board be allowed to discuss the pieces of the constitution that we put up for discussion?
A. five days
B. one week
C. ten days
D. two weeks
E. two weeks with option to prolong
F. one week with option to prolong

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #6 is your last choice.
#1=C
#2=D
#3=F
#4=E
#5=B
#6=A

Question #2: When the discussion ends and the board votes on whether or not to accept the piece of the constitution presented to them, how long should the approval vote run?
A. eight days, two weekends inclusive
B. 10 days
C. 10 days, two weekends inclusive
D. two weeks
E. two weeks with possible extention (to reach quorum)

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #5 is your last choice.
#1=C
#2=B
#3=D
#4=E
#5=A

Question #3: What percentage of the voting members must approve the constitution in order for it to be accepted:
A. 67%, no quorum
B. 67% with 30% quorum (39 members must vote, based on 127 members)
C. 67% with 50% quorum (64 members must vote)
D. 67% with 67% quorum (85 members must vote)
E. 75% no quorum
F. 75% with 30% quorum (39 members must vote)
G. 75% with 50% quorum (64 members must vote)
H. 20% opposition (26 votes against it)

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #8 is your last choice.
#1=G
#2=C
#3=D
#4=F
#5=B
#6=E
#7=A
#8=H

Question #4: Who should be counted for purposes of determing a quorum?
A. all registered members (127 as of March 12)
B. members active during past two months
only two choices, no ranking needed

Please show your first choice:
#1 =B


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Question #1: How long should the board be allowed to discuss the pieces of the constitution that we put up for discussion?

#1 = D
#2 = E
#3= C
#4= F
#5= B
#6= A

Question #2: When the discussion ends and the board votes on whether or not to accept the piece of the constitution presented to them, how long should the approval vote run?

#1 = A
#2 = B
#3= C
#4= D
#5= E

Question #3: What percentage of the voting members must approve the constitution in order for it to be accepted:

#1 = E
#2 = A
#3= H
#4= B
#5= C
#6= D
#7= F
#8 = G

Question #4: Who should be counted for purposes of determing a quorum?
#1 =A
#2=B

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Question #1: How long should the board be allowed to discuss the pieces of the constitution that we put up for discussion?
A. five days
B. one week
C. ten days
D. two weeks
E. two weeks with option to prolong
F. one week with option to prolong

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #6 is your last choice.
#1 = C
#2 = D
#3= B
#4= A
#5= F
#6= E

Question #2: When the discussion ends and the board votes on whether or not to accept the piece of the constitution presented to them, how long should the approval vote run?
A. eight days, two weekends inclusive
B. 10 days
C. 10 days, two weekends inclusive
D. two weeks
E. two weeks with possible extention (to reach quorum)

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #5 is your last choice.
#1 = A
#2 = B
#3= C
#4= D
#5= E

Question #3: What percentage of the voting members must approve the constitution in order for it to be accepted:
A. 67%, no quorum
B. 67% with 30% quorum (39 members must vote, based on 127 members)
C. 67% with 50% quorum (64 members must vote)
D. 67% with 67% quorum (85 members must vote)
E. 75% no quorum
F. 75% with 30% quorum (39 members must vote)
G. 75% with 50% quorum (64 members must vote)
H. 20% opposition (26 votes against it)

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #8 is your last choice.
#1 = A
#2 = E
#3= B
#4= F
#5= C
#6= G
#7= H
#8 = D

Question #4: Who should be counted for purposes of determing a quorum?
A. all registered members (127 as of March 12)
B. members active during past two months
only two choices, no ranking needed

Please show your first choice:
#1 =A

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Question #1: How long should the board be allowed to discuss the pieces of the constitution that we put up for discussion?
A. five days
B. one week
C. ten days
D. two weeks
E. two weeks with option to prolong
F. one week with option to prolong

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #6 is your last choice.
#1 = B. one week
#2 = F. one week with option to prolong
#3= C. ten days
#4= D. two weeks
#5= E. two weeks with option to prolong
#6= A. five days

Question #2: When the discussion ends and the board votes on whether or not to accept the piece of the constitution presented to them, how long should the approval vote run?
A. eight days, two weekends inclusive
B. 10 days
C. 10 days, two weekends inclusive
D. two weeks
E. two weeks with possible extention (to reach quorum)

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #5 is your last choice.
#1 = C. 10 days, two weekends inclusive
#2 = A. eight days, two weekends inclusive
#3= B. 10 days
#4= D. two weeks
#5= E. two weeks with possible extention (to reach quorum)

Question #3: What percentage of the voting members must approve the constitution in order for it to be accepted:
A. 67%, no quorum
B. 67% with 30% quorum (39 members must vote, based on 127 members)
C. 67% with 50% quorum (64 members must vote)
D. 67% with 67% quorum (85 members must vote)
E. 75% no quorum
F. 75% with 30% quorum (39 members must vote)
G. 75% with 50% quorum (64 members must vote)
H. 20% opposition (26 votes against it)

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #8 is your last choice.
#1 = B. 67% with 30% quorum
#2 = F. 75% with 30% quorum
#3= C. 67% with 50% quorum
#4= G. 75% with 50% quorum
#5= D. 67% with 67% quorum
#6= A. 67%, no quorum
#7= E. 75% no quorum
#8 = H. 20% opposition

Question #4: Who should be counted for purposes of determing a quorum?
A. all registered members (127 as of March 12)
B. members active during past two months
only two choices, no ranking needed

Please show your first choice:
#1 = B. members active during past two months

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Axordil
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my votes as follows

Question #1: How long should the board be allowed to discuss the pieces of the constitution that we put up for discussion?
A. five days
B. one week
C. ten days
D. two weeks
E. two weeks with option to prolong
F. one week with option to prolong

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #6 is your last choice.
#1 = C
#2 = B
#3= A
#4= D
#5= F
#6= E

Question #2: When the discussion ends and the board votes on whether or not to accept the piece of the constitution presented to them, how long should the approval vote run?
A. eight days, two weekends inclusive
B. 10 days
C. 10 days, two weekends inclusive
D. two weeks
E. two weeks with possible extention (to reach quorum)

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #5 is your last choice.
#1 = C
#2 = A
#3= B
#4= D
#5= E

Question #3: What percentage of the voting members must approve the constitution in order for it to be accepted:
A. 67%, no quorum
B. 67% with 30% quorum (39 members must vote, based on 127 members)
C. 67% with 50% quorum (64 members must vote)
D. 67% with 67% quorum (85 members must vote)
E. 75% no quorum
F. 75% with 30% quorum (39 members must vote)
G. 75% with 50% quorum (64 members must vote)
H. 20% opposition (26 votes against it)

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #8 is your last choice.
#1 = H
#2 = E
#3= F
#4= G
#5= C
#6= A
#7= B
#8 = D

Question #4: Who should be counted for purposes of determing a quorum?
A. all registered members (127 as of March 12)

A

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truehobbit
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Ballot

Question #1: How long should the board be allowed to discuss the pieces of the constitution that we put up for discussion?
A. five days
B. one week
C. ten days
D. two weeks
E. two weeks with option to prolong
F. one week with option to prolong

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #6 is your last choice.
#1 = F
#2 = C
#3= D
#4= E
#5= B
#6= A

Question #2: When the discussion ends and the board votes on whether or not to accept the piece of the constitution presented to them, how long should the approval vote run?
A. eight days, two weekends inclusive
B. 10 days
C. 10 days, two weekends inclusive
D. two weeks
E. two weeks with possible extention (to reach quorum)

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #5 is your last choice.
#1 = D
#2 = B
#3= C
#4= E
#5= A

Question #3: What percentage of the voting members must approve the constitution in order for it to be accepted:
A. 67%, no quorum
B. 67% with 30% quorum (39 members must vote, based on 127 members)
C. 67% with 50% quorum (64 members must vote)
D. 67% with 67% quorum (85 members must vote)
E. 75% no quorum
F. 75% with 30% quorum (39 members must vote)
G. 75% with 50% quorum (64 members must vote)
H. 20% opposition (26 votes against it)

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #8 is your last choice.
#1 = C
#2 = H
#3= B
#4= E
#5= A
#6= F
#7= G
#8 = D

Question #4: Who should be counted for purposes of determing a quorum?
A. all registered members (127 as of March 12)
B. members active during past two months
only two choices, no ranking needed

Please show your first choice:
#1 = A


Edited to say I'll be offline till Sunday night (or Monday, depending on how tired I am ;) ) - got a moot to go to! :D

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Vote from the House of Din ;)

Question #1:

#1 = D
#2 = C
#3= E
#4= F
#5= B
#6= A

Question #2:
#1 = C
#2 = E
#3= D
#4= B
#5= A

Question #3:

#1 = C
#2 = D
#3= B
#4= G
#5= F
#6= H
#7= A
#8 = E

Question #4:

#1 =B

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Ethel
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Question #1:
#1=E
#2=D
#3=C
#4=F
#5=B
#6=A

Question #2:
#1=D
#2=E
#3=C
#4=B
#5=A

Question #3:
#1=B
#2=A
#3=C
#4=D
#5=E
#6=F
#7=G
#8=H

Question #4:
#1=A


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Farawen
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Question #1:
#1 = E
#2 = F
#3= D
#4= C
#5= B
#6= A

Question #2:
#1 = E
#2 = D
#3= C
#4= B
#5= A

Question #3:
#1 = D
#2 = A
#3= G
#4= C
#5= E
#6= B
#7= F
#8 = H

Question #4:
#1 = A


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Eruname
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H. 20% opposition (26 votes against it)

Can someone explain to me what the above means? I'm sure it's in this thread somewhere, but it would be much easier if someone could just quickly clue me in,

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Axordil
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Polling would be sans quorum, and only "no" votes would be tallied. A total of 25% No votes would signify that the item was not approved. Otherwise, it would be approved.

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Estel
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Question #1: How long should the board be allowed to discuss the pieces of the constitution that we put up for discussion?

#1 = A
#2 = B
#3= F
#4= C
#5= D
#6= E
_______________________________________________________________________

Question #2: When the discussion ends and the board votes on whether or not to accept the piece of the constitution presented to them, how long should the approval vote run?

#1 = A
#2 = B
#3= C
#4= D
#5= E
_______________________________________________________________________

Question #3: What percentage of the voting members must approve the constitution in order for it to be accepted:
#1 = A
#2 = F
#3= H
#4= E
#5= B
#6= C
#7= D
#8 = G
_______________________________________________________________________

Question #4: Who should be counted for purposes of determing a quorum?
A. all registered members (127 as of March 12)
B. members active during past two months
only two choices, no ranking needed

Please show your first choice:
#1 = B


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Eruname
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Axordil wrote:
Polling would be sans quorum, and only "no" votes would be tallied. A total of 25% No votes would signify that the item was not approved. Otherwise, it would be approved.
What's the difference between that and the 75% no quorum? :scratch

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75% no quorum simply means a 75% YES vote is needed without the necessity of a quorum. If 75% of the votes (no matter how many vote) are YES.. then the motion would be accepted.

The other is a NO vote. It's basically assuming that who-ever does not speak up automatically accepts.
The two are different in perspective.

I've tallied up so far and we're only missing two votes: Eruname and Lidless. Then I can start breaking my head over the counts ;)
But I better leave that for tomorrow bright and early :D

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Eruname
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Sorry Alandriel. Have been at work today and then I wanted to make sure I knew what I was voting for.

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Eruname
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Question 1:
#1 = C
#2 = F
#3= D
#4= B
#5= E
#6= A

Question 2.
#1 = C
#2 = B
#3= A
#4= D
#5= E

Question 3:
#1 = B
#2 = A
#3= F
#4= E
#5= C
#6= G
#7= D
#8 = H

Question 4:
#1 =A

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Jnyusa
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Yes, we're only waiting for Lidless now. Thanks, everyone, for voting so promptly.

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While we're waiting and nothing else is happening, I thought I'd take this opportunity to lobby for my Shire model idea. :tired:

One really significant advantage that I see in this idea is the fact that as board77 grows and its standing in the internet world increases, there will be more and more need to have a person who acts as the board's spokesperson. Now, we could just delegate this task to lidless as the owner, and I think everyone would be confident that he would do a great job of it, but I also think he would be the first to agree that such a delegation would be contrary to the democratic nature of the place. I think it would be more appropriate to have people act in this role on a rotating basis, elected by the membership for a fixed term. People well respected by all, who people would be comfortable to have speak for them, but who also have no real power to do anything else while they hold this position. The anti-Monarch, if you will.

Also, to answer Viv's point, what I have in mind would not at all involve mods in the TORCian sense of people chosen by the owners and exercising power in an arbitrary and hidden way. As someone else pointed out, it would be more like the existing b77 admins, but with the tasks more divided up (and thus putting less pressure on each individual). It would also have an addition component of people working to keep undesirables out, which I think will be very important when we open (as we will inevitably have to do).

Finally, the one thing that binds us all together, even more then a common past at TORC, is the love of Tolkien's work. Whether old m00bs, are manwe-ites, or Talkers, or RPers or what have you, whether a fan of the films, or their biggest critic, we all come from a common background of loving Tolkien. I for one am attracted to the idea of emphasizing that common ground, and using it to help define what b77 is about (particularly since, to be completely honest, the name board77 does not really itself help define the place, as most names do).

I'll shut up now. Once again, if anyone wants me to remove this message, just let me know.


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