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Di of Long Cleeve
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Posted: Tue 17 Mar , 2009 3:23 pm
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The Rune of St Patrick
The Faedh Fiada; or, "The Cry of the Deer"

At Tara today in this fateful hour
I place all Heaven with its power,
And the sun with its brightness,
And the snow with its whiteness,
And fire with all the strength it hath,
And lightning with its rapid wrath,
And the winds with their swiftness along their path,
And the sea with its deepness,
And the rocks with their steepness,
And the earth with its starkness
All these I place,
By God's almighty help and grace,
Between myself and the powers of darkness.

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Patrick was of course, a Briton, not a Celt. And his original name was Maewyn Succat. Honestly. http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A273700" target="_blank" target="_blank

Here's to the people of the Emerald Isle, a beautiful country with a troubled history (no thanks to the English!) and a wonderfully rich culture of literature, legend, spirituality, dance, music and song that's celebrated all over the world :) :
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I've been to the Republic of Ireland twice: the first time in spring 1998, when I went to Dublin, where the Book of Kells blew me away, and the second in summer 2000, when I stayed with a friend in the wild and beautiful County Donegal, the most northern-west tip of the country. All of Ireland is wild and beautiful, of course ...

I also know Northern Ireland quite well: I first went there in 1987. My adoptive father's family came from Londonderry (or, rather, Derry) and Ballymeena, and my birth mother, although she is English, has lived near Belfast since the early 1960s.

The Giant's Causeway, Co. Antrim, Northern Ireland:
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Here's to peace. :)

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Posted: Tue 17 Mar , 2009 3:41 pm
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Sláinte! (Wish I had some real Guinness to make that toast with!) :toast:

The details of my family history are a little sketchy; all I have really is a last name--Bohannan. I suppose that might even be a corruption of Buchanan, which is Scottish, serving to increase the amount of known Scottish blood I have (Cummings). But I'm clinging to the Bohannan=Irish theory. In either case, those relatives came to America in its early years, probably in the 1700s or very early 1800s.

Freddy's family has deeper ties to Ireland. Wentworth, Moore, etc.

But no matter. :D Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day!

Pangur Ban
Anonymous, c9th century Ireland

I and Pangur Ban my cat,
'Tis a like task we are at:
Hunting mice is his delight
Hunting words I sit all night.

Better far than praise of men
'Tis to sit with book and pen;
Pangur bears me no ill will,
He too plies his simple skill.

'Tis a merry thing to see
At our tasks how glad are we,
When at home we sit and find
Entertainment to our mind.

Oftentimes a mouse will stray
In our hero Pangur's way;
Oftentimes my keen thought set
Takes a meaning in its net.

'Gainst the wall he sets his eye
Full and fierce and sharp and sly;
'Gainst the wall of knowledge I
All my little wisdom try.

When a mouse darts from its den
O how glad is Pangur then!
O what gladness do I prove
When I solve the doubts I love!

So in peace our tasks we ply,
Pangur Ban, my cat, and I;
In our arts we find our bliss,
I have mine and he has his.

Practice every day has made
Pangur perfect in his trade;
I get wisdom day and night
Turning darkness into light.


:) I just thought that was a sweet, interesting poem.

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Di of Long Cleeve
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Posted: Tue 17 Mar , 2009 3:53 pm
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Aw, I just love that poem! :hug: I think it was written by a monk. :)

Lali, it would be so interesting to find out about your ancestors. :) Having both Scottish and Irish blood is very cool. :cool: Your red hair could come from either your Scottish or Irish side:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair" target="_blank" target="_blank

We like to gently mock Americans for thinking they're related to everyone in Ireland :P but in fact I'm sure most English people wouldn't be able to trace their genealogy back more than a couple of generations! Due to the loss of the extended family in our culture.

One of these days I'm going to do a proper genealogical search on my biological grandparents and see how far back I can trace. I'm expecting solid Anglo-Saxon stock, based on my skin and hair/eye colour!

But, as you say, everybody is Irish on St. Patrick's Day. :banana:

Guinness is the only beer I can tolerate. And the only place where I will drink it is Ireland!! :D :)

I once had fruit cake which had Guinness in it. :D It was delicious. That was in Co. Donegal.

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Posted: Tue 17 Mar , 2009 4:16 pm
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Di -

I HAVE traced several sides of my family back to the late 1700s, (The German sides even farther) and most of those were either Irish or Scots. Where it gets really confusing is that there seems to have been quite a bit of movement between the British Isles as well, so one Northern Irish ancestor I suspect was a transplanted Protestant Scot (Caskey), while another Irish ancestor's last name originally derived from England and prior to that Normandy (Comerford, originally de Quemerford).

Interestingly enough, Irish ancestry is the second most common European ethnic origin here in the US, behind only German. Very few of us are all one ancestry here any longer in any case. We are all mutts. :D :D

But, no matter, today we are ALL Irish.

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My grandmother did all the hard geneology work for us, and all I had to do was plug what she'd learned into computer format. And then my father-in-law got interested and did the same thing on my husband's side of the family and so my kids have pretty complete geneologies going back 10 or 12 generations in some instances. It's kind of cool. My maiden name was either Scottish or Irish but my grandmother could never find out where the earliest of that name originated. I've always assumed it was a criminal who changed his name when he immigrated. :P I've since done google searches of that surname and found quite a few people in Scotland... but that doesn't mean much if you don't know *who* it was that came over and who they were related to.

I don't much care, really. It's nice to have the data available, I guess, but as long as you aren't marrying first cousins out of ignorance then it really doesn't matter, does it?

Except... it is nice to know that one of my husband's great grandmothers was Cherokee. It explains his non-burning skin and the tendancy to diabetes in his side of the family.

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Posted: Tue 17 Mar , 2009 6:13 pm
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I don't believe I have any true Irish ancestry. :( I am half English, a quarter Italian, and a quarter Scandinavian/German. However, my father's birthmother believes that her family might be related to Charles Stuart Parnell, who was influential in Ireland in the late 19th century but was English by birth.


Happy St. Patrick's Day to all, Irish or no! :toast: Irish Car Bombs for everyone!


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I'll be havin my pint.. or two.. or three... of Guinness tonight after work! Unfortunately I have to go to an English pub to get it! Not my fault all the "Irish Pubs" around here have shitty Guinness...

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elfshadow wrote:
I don't believe I have any true Irish ancestry. :( I am half English, a quarter Italian, and a quarter Scandinavian/German. However, my father's birthmother believes that her family might be related to Charles Stuart Parnell, who was influential in Ireland in the late 19th century but was English by birth.
The first child of Charles Parnell and his mistress Katherine O'Shea, who divorced from her husband and whom Parnell later married (it caused quite a scandal, of course, this being the 1880s), is buried in the churchyard of a Roman Catholic church in Chislehurst, Kent, which is near where I live. :cool: Poor little mite died in 1882.
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Irish Car Bombs for everyone!
:Q Is that the name of a drink? :scratch:

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That's cool, Di! :) I didn't know Charles Parnell had any children--we supposed that we might be related to one of his siblings or cousins. But I guess that a child out of wedlock who died so young certainly wouldn't have been known about back then.

And sorry, yes, Irish Car Bombs are a drink! Here's how to make one.

1) Pour a glass with half a bottle of Guinness
2) Mix half a shot of Irish whiskey into the Guinness
3) Pour a shot of Baileys into a shot glass
4) Drop the entire shot glass into the glass of Guinness/whiskey
5) Chug as fast as you can :D

The whiskey and the Baileys will cause the Guinness to curdle within about ten or fifteen seconds, so you have to drink it fast. But it goes down easy. Tastes like chocolate milk.


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Posted: Tue 17 Mar , 2009 10:11 pm
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Happy Saint Patrick's Day!

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LOL, TheMary. :D

Elfshadow, that drink sounds absolutely YUMMY!!!! :)

Oh, and Parnell: he had several children with Kitty O'Shea, whom he married after she divorced her husband.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Stewart_Parnell" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

Here's some fabulous Irish music: :cool:

'Song for Ireland' by the angel-voiced Mary Black (that's Enya in the video though!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgvrlODU ... re=related" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

'Mo Ghile Mear' by Mary Black:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDlCM_Mw ... re=related" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

'My youngest son came home today' by Mary Black. This anti-war song brings tears to my eyes. The footage is from the superb mini-series Band of Brothers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXXndDLWWPs" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

This is gorgeous: an Arwen/Aragorn tribute, set to 'Siuil a Run' a famous and very beautiful traditional Irish love song, sung here by Celtic Woman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVzedrpe ... re=related" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

Also by Celtic Woman (who are all gorgeous!), singing 'Si Do Mhaimeo I':
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'The Last Rose of Summer', Celtic Woman (with Hayley Westernra) again:
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'O Danny Boy' (get ready to blub!) by Celtic Woman:
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'Two sisters', classic Clannad:
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'Níl Sé'n Lá' by Clannad (I love their early stuff):
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I enjoyed St. Patty's day too much... :blackeye:

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Me too, Gimli! :drunk:
I have warned my boss that I might be a wee bit late coming in to work tomorrow. :blackeye:

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Not to spoil anyone's fun, but even years after the troubles I find the whole concept of calling a drink the Irish Car Bomb extremely distasteful. Just a personal thing.

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tbh I've been celebrating my own sort of St. Pattz holiday for the past few weeks, but in honor of the more traditional one, I did end yesterday passed out! There's a huge Irish population in my town, so ~*~the love~*~ was definitely felt.

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Not to spoil anyone's fun, but even years after the troubles I find the whole concept of calling a drink the Irish Car Bomb extremely distasteful. Just a personal thing.
Actually, I'm glad you said that.

The drink itself sounds nice, but there is no way a drink would get called that over here.

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Yeah, it'd be like slamming down "Al-Queda Bombers" on 9/11. Couldn't see that going down well.

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Baileys in Guinness! :Q Now I call that distasteful. :D It's like stirring cocoa into it.
Hope you had a good day Al. And all the Irish diaspora too. I wish we celebrated St Georges Day with such style.

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Not to spoil anyone's fun, but even years after the troubles I find the whole concept of calling a drink the Irish Car Bomb extremely distasteful. Just a personal thing.
Ditto...

Also, not to spoil Di's fun, but Feadh Fiadh actually looks more like this:
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Atomriug indiu
niurt tréun:
togairm Trindóit
faístin Oendatad,
i nDúlemon dáil.

Atomriug indiu
niurt gene Críst cona bathius,
niurt a chrochtho cona adnacul,
niurt a essérgi cona fhresgabáil,
niurt a thoíniudo fri brithemnas mbrátho.

Atomriug indiu
niurt gráid hiruphin,
i n-aurlataid aingel,
i frestul inna n-archaingel,
i freiscisin esséirgi
ar chiunn fochraicce,
i n-ernaigthib uasalathrach,
i tairchetlaib fáithe,
i preceptaib apstal,
i n-iresaib foísmedach,
i n-enccai noebingen,
i ngnímaib fer firén.

Atomriug indiu
niurt nime,
soilsi gréne,
étrochtai éscai,
áni thened,
déni lóchet,
luaithi gaíthe,
fudomnai mara,
tairismigi thalman,
cobsaidi ailech.

Atomriug indiu
niurt Dé dom luamairecht.
Cumachtae nDé dom chumgabáil,
ciall Dé dom inthús,
rose nDé dom remcisiu,
cluas Dé dom étsecht,
briathar Dé dom erlabrai,
lám Dé dom imdegail,
intech Dé dom remthechtas,
sciath Dé dom imdítin,
sochraite Dé dom anacul
ar intledaib demnae,
ar aslagib dualche,
ar forimthechtaib aicnid,
ar cech duine mídúthrastar dam,
i céin ocus i n-ocus,
i n'uathud ocus i sochaidi.

Tocuiriur etrum indiu inna uili nert-so
fri cech nert n-amnas n-étrocar frista-i dom churp ocus dom anmain,
fri tinchetla sa-ibfh-aithe,
fri dubrechtu gentliuchtae,
fri saíbrechtu heretecdae,
fri imchellacht n-ídlachtae,
fri brichtu ban ocus goban ocus druad,
fri cech fiss arachuille corp ocus anmain duini.

Crist dom imdegail indiu
ar neim, ar loscud, ar bádud, ar guin,
condom-thair ilar fochraicce.
Críst limm, Críst reum, Críst im degaid,
Críst indium, Críst ísum, Críst uasum,
Críst desum, Críst tuathum,
Críst i llius, Críst i sius, Críst i n-erus,
Críst i cridiu cech duini immumrorda,
Críst i ngin cech oín rodom-labrathar,
Críst i cech rusc nonom-dercathar,
Críst i cech cluais rodom-chloathar.

Atomriug indiu
niurt tréun:
togairm Trindóit,
cretim Treodatad,
faístin Oendatad,
i nDúlemon dáil.

Domini est salus,
Domini est salus,
Christi est salus.
This bit:
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Crist dom imdegail indiu
ar neim, ar loscud, ar bádud, ar guin,
condom-thair ilar fochraicce.
Críst limm, Críst reum, Críst im degaid,
Críst indium, Críst ísum, Críst uasum,
Críst desum, Críst tuathum,
Críst i llius, Críst i sius, Críst i n-erus,
Críst i cridiu cech duini immumrorda,
Críst i ngin cech oín rodom-labrathar,
Críst i cech rusc nonom-dercathar,
Críst i cech cluais rodom-chloathar.
is more commonly known as 'Lúireach Phádraigh' or 'Patrick's Breastplate'

Of course, this is Old Irish. The most commonly accepted English translation looks something like this:
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I bind unto myself today
The strong Name of the Trinity,
By invocation of the same
The Three in One and One in Three.

I bind this today to me forever
By power of faith, Christ’s incarnation;
His baptism in Jordan river,
His death on Cross for my salvation;
His bursting from the spicèd tomb,
His riding up the heavenly way,
His coming at the day of doom
I bind unto myself today.

I bind unto myself the power
Of the great love of cherubim;
The sweet ‘Well done’ in judgment hour,
The service of the seraphim,
Confessors’ faith, Apostles’ word,
The Patriarchs’ prayers, the prophets’ scrolls,
All good deeds done unto the Lord
And purity of virgin souls.

I bind unto myself today
The virtues of the star lit heaven,
The glorious sun’s life giving ray,
The whiteness of the moon at even,
The flashing of the lightning free,
The whirling wind’s tempestuous shocks,
The stable earth, the deep salt sea
Around the old eternal rocks.

I bind unto myself today
The power of God to hold and lead,
His eye to watch, His might to stay,
His ear to hearken to my need.
The wisdom of my God to teach,
His hand to guide, His shield to ward;
The word of God to give me speech,
His heavenly host to be my guard.

Against the demon snares of sin,
The vice that gives temptation force,
The natural lusts that war within,
The hostile men that mar my course;
Or few or many, far or nigh,
In every place and in all hours,
Against their fierce hostility
I bind to me these holy powers.

Against all Satan’s spells and wiles,
Against false words of heresy,
Against the knowledge that defiles,
Against the heart’s idolatry,
Against the wizard’s evil craft,
Against the death wound and the burning,
The choking wave, the poisoned shaft,
Protect me, Christ, till Thy returning.

Christ be with me, Christ within me,
Christ behind me, Christ before me,
Christ beside me, Christ to win me,
Christ to comfort and restore me.
Christ beneath me, Christ above me,
Christ in quiet, Christ in danger,
Christ in hearts of all that love me,
Christ in mouth of friend and stranger.

I bind unto myself the Name,
The strong Name of the Trinity,
By invocation of the same,
The Three in One and One in Three.
By Whom all nature hath creation,
Eternal Father, Spirit, Word:
Praise to the Lord of my salvation,
Salvation is of Christ the Lord.
A belated happy Patrick's Day to all.
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