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Khorazîr
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Cool :) Look forward to reading more stuff about the little ones.


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:D I love my three little guys. They can be the most perfect little angels and I can set them aside whenever I want. :D:D:D

I'm not sure if I'm going to get something written in the next 24 hours or so (will definitely try), so if you have something you want to post, don't feel you have to wait for me.

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I don't think I can get another post done before tonight, as I have plenty of stuff to see to this afternoon. So you might be faster than me after all, LoR ;)

Now, as for the issues that came up in the thread at the other site:
I don't think they're going to give Faramir any wine or stronger stuff because they can't be sure if there's still some of the poison in him, and moreover he's so dehydrated that he needs water first. As for the pain when his shoulder is set ... well, if he's lucky he won't be conscious when they get him on board ;)


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Here I am to bug you on this thread :Wooper: ! (I'll delete my post on the other thread - but can you put in a link if you haven't already?)

Death to AJ! :rage:

Help, help :help: , somebody save Captain Sharkbait a.k.a. our poor brave and obviously desperate Faramir! :bawl:

Gods Save King Elessar - and hurry him to Faramir's rescue :cheers !

Poor Eowyn :( - but she only has a few more hours to wait before she's going to be a very happy woman.


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You mean a link to this thread here? There's one in the first post. I'm going to put up a link (two, actually, one for the story and one for the aside) on my website in a moment. :)


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Khorazîr wrote:
I don't think I can get another post done before tonight, as I have plenty of stuff to see to this afternoon. So you might be faster than me after all, LoR ;)

Now, as for the issues that came up in the thread at the other site:
I don't think they're going to give Faramir any wine or stronger stuff because they can't be sure if there's still some of the poison in him, and moreover he's so dehydrated that he needs water first. As for the pain when his shoulder is set ... well, if he's lucky he won't be conscious when they get him on board ;)

I liked how Faramir's Merry Men-er-Rangers were being so protective of him. I'm not surprised - in their place I wouldn't let him ride out anywhere without less than 200 men as an escort/bodyguard, given what you ladies have done to him over the years.

Well, as long as Faramir comes aboard the frigate in one piece, with no limbs or appendages bitten off by sharks, I'll be happy.

Was Falastur acting on his own initiative when he told AJ that he didn't care if Faramir was killed? I'm surprised that he mentioned that, given that there was the possibility that Faramir would live. Or will Falastur just claim it was a ploy to make AJ think it, so he'd lose motivation to hold Faramir hostage? (which doesn't make sense to me, but I don't know how smart Falastur is)

About the water/wine - how would the wine be dangerous if Faramir still has poison in him?


They still need to give Faramir some broth; his system will need some salt; I'm not sure they'd want to immediately give him a lot of food, given that he's been ill twice in the last month.

Still volunteering to bring some chicken soup to the frigate for Faramir! :love:


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Don't worry, I don't intend to cause Faramir any further damage.

The rangers still have a bad conscience because their beloved lord and captain was captured from their midst and they didn't manage to protect him. So they're trying to make up for that now ;)

Ahh, Falastur ... now that's an interesting case. To AJ, who fortunately doesn't know everything about what's going on between the lords of Gondor (and the last time he encountered Falastur and Faramir together they had joined forces against him and sent him to prison in Pelargir), it might have sounded like a ploy, but in fact Falastur was rather serious about what he said. But no problem there. Faramir is familiar with his attitude, because the Lord of Pelargir has always been pretty open about what he thinks of his neighbour in Ithilien. Falastur wouldn't send assassins after Faramir. But should an opportunity arise where the son of Denethor was killed accidentally, he would be the last to mourn his demise.

As for salt, well, if again he swallows so much sea-water Faramir's going to have enough of that for a while ;)

Alcohol and poison don't go together well, as Faramir (and in fact AJ :devil: ) realised when he drank wine once during the time he was still under the influence of the poison.


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Falastur studied me for a moment. 'You know I do not care if he survives this or not,' he replied coldly. 'In fact, I would prefer if he did not. So kill him, if you have to. It is you I want, Al-Jahmîr, and with or without him you cannot run any further.'



But Falastur is doing more than saying he doesn't care if AJ kills Faramir, he's voicing a preference that AJ does kill him. Which, to me, seems at least a strong insult to the King, telling an enemy of Gondor to kill the Steward of the realm "So kill him" :rage: , that Falastur would prefer if the Steward would not survive. It could be construed as collaboration. Faramir won't blab; but maybe someone on Falastur's ship will tell one of the King's men or something.

I suppose it's too much to hope for that Falastur is fatally injured by AJ's men who boarded his ship :) ...

I think the salt in the ocean is not digested as well as the salt in broth; so I'd still hope Faramir gets some...But still, it's your story.

Faramir should take a few days off when he gets home. I doubt that Eowyn will let him out of bed anyway, for a variety of reasons. ;)


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Raksha, do you ever sleep? :scratch

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That's what I've been wondering about as well ;)

No no no, Falastur must not be killed or fatally injured. He's my very favourite bad guy (or semi-bad, depending on the situation), and he's so much fun to play in an rp. It'd be cool if his ship was sunk or captured, though, and he had to do some swimming ... :D

I'm not sure if Elessar could or would do anything against him, either. Surely he's aware of Falastur's attitude towards Faramir. Falastur is powerful, and I think Aragorn likes to have him around so that he can watch him personally. Falastur has rendered the realm some important services recently, so one can't just lock him away for attempted treason or collaboration anyway, and usually he's quite careful that none of his more shady doings can be traced back to him. Should his words concerning Faramir's death indeed reach Elessar's ears, he's going to be in for trouble, however. And for punishment the King just has to raise the taxes for Pelargir, or see to it that Falastur has to pay something extra out of his own purse to cause real unhappiness there ;)

I'm sure Faramir's going to be looked after well on the ship. He's going to want some real food, too, after his recent diet of uncooked sea-creatures and water-melon, although he's going to have to be careful with that.

Now I have to do some drawing, and then I'll see if I can get a post written ;)


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But Falastur is doing more than saying he doesn't care if AJ kills Faramir, he's voicing a preference that AJ does kill him. Which, to me, seems at least a strong insult to the King, telling an enemy of Gondor to kill the Steward of the realm "So kill him" , that Falastur would prefer if the Steward would not survive. It could be construed as collaboration
But I find it hard to believe that anything Falastur says would have any influence on AJ's decisions. After all, AJ almost killed Faramir once already. It's not like killing Faramir is a new idea.

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But it seems a popular one :devil:

And who's "work-obsessed", eh? Hrm hrm! He did change, you know ;)


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"work-obsessed" wasn't in the original post. It was edited in after I realized the line needed some adjectives so readers would understand why it was a bad thing to be turning into Faramir. ;)

Yes, and maybe he did change, but that doesn't mean Eowyn can't still hold it over his head that he was a workaholic, more interested in matters of the fief than his own family. :P

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Lady_of_Rohan wrote:
Raksha, do you ever sleep? :scratch


During the day, like most vampires...Or at least part of it.


Faramir work-obsessed? Hmm, that's a fairly modern concept for M-e...The Faramir I've seen in the Letters and the RPGs doesn't seem to be work-obsessed in his heart. As Steward of Gondor and Prince of Ithilien, there are duties he simply has to carry out. Too many people's welfare depend on his attention for him to ignore those duties. In modern terms, Faramir is not someone with a simple 9-5 job. However, he should be able to set his own hours to a certain extent, and be able to delegate many of the routine chores to trustworthy staff/secretaries/lieutenants. And occasionally, he should get some time off...

Maybe Turin can help Faramir catch up on the paperwork after the latter returns. Faramir should not immediately throw himself into exhaustingly long workdays or his health will suffer.

Why do I think that the reunion will occur in the garden, by the frog-pond? :)

Okay, one has to keep Treacherous Falastur around. But I certainly hope AJ's power will be broken and him destroyed at some point. If AJ regains power and influence, he will undoubtedly try to assasinate Eowyn and the kids to break Faramir's heart. Or just keep trying and at minimum be a nuisance, at maximum cause real damage.



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The work-issue came up in one of our early RPs, and created some wonderful story-twists and cool dialogue/interaction. It's also mentioned in Teherin's Secret, where one reason for it is being thematised (Éowyn's miscarriage, and his inability to deal with it in another way than trying to distract himself with work, which of course only made matters worse). It put an enormous strain on their marriage for a while, but luckily they managed to settle the matter, and I think in the end their bond was even strengthened because of it.


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“I doubt that I would sit here with all my limps intact had they attacked me."

Don't you mean limbs, not "limps"?

And wouldn't Faramir awaken to Aragorn rejoicing that Faramir was alive, and actively trying to help him? Since Faramir was unconscious for at least several seconds underwater, he probably consumed some seawater. When he regained consciousness, Faramir probably would have ejected that seawater, so that Aragorn wouldn't have needed to check that he was still breathing; it would be obvious. But I'm not a doctor, so I can't be 100% sure; I've just seen it in lots of movies and TV shows ;) . You could get around that without any changes I suppose; Faramir just wouldn't remember spewing the salt water. The King could have been holding Faramir's head and Faramir, wonky as he is, poor dear :( , assumed that Aragorn was checking to see if he was actually breathing.

Quibbles aside (and isn't it wince, not "whince"), I'm a happy Fara-fan :D :clap:

Way to go, Aragorn and Imrahil, saving our hero :blackeye , who is Captain Sharkbait no more! :cheers (I loved the description of Aragorn's caring for Faramir and the cheers in the boat - Awwww) Poor Faramir sounds totally done in; but he can finally rest and totally relax for a day or three.

AJ must be having fits :damnfunny !

Hirgon is going to write The Ballad of the Prince and the Corsair, isn't he?! Sure to go straight to the top of the charts in Gondor!

I imagine they're going to practically declare a national holiday in Ithilien!

How did Faramir get this Ranger escort without Eowyn knowing that he's alive? Did he just happen to run into them?



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Okay, just once more for clarification so I don't get ahead of myself:

Khorazir, you have about two more posts of Faramir telling his story, and then a final one where he makes his grand entrance in the garden?

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I think I'd like to extend the bit in the garden, as he's not going to dash towards Éowyn and the kids once he sees them. I think he's going to take a moment and just watch them ;). But yeah, three more posts is about right.

About the seawater-thing, I'm sure he got rid of it (I also had to think of "Baywatch" when I wrote this ;) ), only I figured he wouldn't tell the rangers every little bit. Also he's not quite finished with his account of what happened just after they pulled him out of the water. I hope to get that written tonight.

Oooh, today I got 10 little froggies from a colleague from work. She complained they had so many in the garden, and I said that our pond could do with some. They're very small still, only about the size of a fingernail, and darkbrown and very cute. I only hope they won't get eaten by Ulmo and his retinue.


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I enjoyed the Azrahil/Eowyn interlude. Though I'm very ticked off at the guardsmen who did more than tease Pharzi - they evidently hurt her, if only slightly. That's not only a good way to get Pharzi to view them as enemies/predators; but it's just plain mean, as she is not large enough yet to do significant damage to armed men (plural). Eowyn, via Beregond should tell them that such nastiness would be abhorrent to Faramir, especially since he had found comfort and amusement in the cub's antics.

Loved the bit about Azrahil trying to sneak by Eowyn, and having guilty pride about fighting with the guards. Am I crazy or is he kind of adopting her as a mother-figure, as he seemed to be doing with Faramir, at least in a symbolic way as the father he would have liked to have had? Well, it's better than falling in love with her. Though I imagine that half the Guards and Rohirrim hanging about Dol Arandur are in love with her to some extent; she cuts a very dashing yet romantic figure, especially now, bereaved, missing her hubby; the males will be feeling all macho-protective...

Who and what is Ulmo? (I know who Tolkien's Ulmo is, though I doubt he's residing in your pond...)


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Ah, but he is residing in our pond ;) Well, Ulmo I named the largest of our goldfish. We had Osse and Uinen, too, but Osse died, and Uinen simply disappeared one summer. Now only Ulmo is left of the larger fish, plus an uncounted following of small ones.


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