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Kaya
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Breogán, could you help me with some translations please? :) It’s for ID titles.

Would ‘Eocnight’ be a good old english translation for ‘horseboy’?

And in case of Adunaic, I found that sea = azra, and dog = rabô (for a male), so would that make ‘Azrarabô’ as a valid translation for ‘seadog’? Have you any idea what a good translation for ‘searat’ would be? And for ‘devil of the deep blue (sea)’?

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Kaya

I've recently moved back to Ireland and I'm quite busy at the moment, but don´t worry, I'll have a look at it later on and I´ll have the translations ready for you in a couple of days.

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A Breogán sighting! :Q :hug: Sorry I barged in, but I've missed you these last couple of weeks! :)

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Breogán, i need some help too. How would you say "father" in Haradrim? And some other basic words in Harad....some phrases a person from the south would use without thinking....thanks :)

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Thanks Breogán. Hope the moving went smoothly. :)

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Guys, apologies for not having posted the translations as promised, but the whole moving business is being far more complicated than expected and to make things worse, I had to be rushed to the ER and spent a couple of days in hospital last week... :(
I shall have a look at your requests later on this week.
Apologies once again. :)

Thanks Ber and Kaya :hug:

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Autch! Sorry to hear you've not been well. :( There's no need to apologise at all. Wishing you a speedy recovery, take good care of yourself. :hug: :hug:

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I've been wondering where you were! I do hope you're okay now and that you're recovering! :hug:

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Kaya

Yes, IMO, "eocnight" would be correct. Regarding "seadog", I would go for "azrabô" instead. :)

Peeg, AFAIK there is absolutely no Haradrin corpus apart from "Khand", "Variag" and "Mûmak", and probably Incánus ("Inkâ-nus"), but even Tolkien himself was not too sure about the origin and etymology of these terms (according to PM and UT). So that is a curse and a bless at the same time: we have nothing to base derivations on, but at the same time, we are free to develop the language in whatever direction we want to.
Go ahead and give it a go, and if you need any help, let me know and we'll work on this together. :D

Oh, btw, thanks everybody for your recovery wishes. :D

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I just saw Bre's name, so I looked in here! :)

Good to see you, it's been a long time! - So sorry to hear about the hospital - hope it wasn't something too bad? :(
Are you settled in Ireland now?
Anyway, good to see you back! :hug:

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Thank you Bre :hug: :D

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Ooh I wasn't aware b77 had a language thread...

*takes his invisible cape*

Time for some lurking now :)



P.S. is this thread only meant for Elvish or for translations of any sort?


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:Q Poor Bre :hug: Hope you're much much better now. What on earth happened? But definitely great to see you back. Missed ya :)

Didi: Bre has kindly volunteered her extensive expertise of tolkien languages in here to help us RPers out. I think we've had Sindarin, Quenya and Aduniac in here so far as well as Rohirric :D What is your expertese? We simply MUST give talented people a chance to volunteer
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Breogán
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Well, having Didi on board means we know who will be looking after Quenya from now on, since his knowledge and interest in the High Tongue is far greater than mine ;)

THobbit, Alandriel
Doctors have no idea what caused the violent alergic reaction - whatever it was it landed me on the ER at 2 AM, with face and hands the size of ballons, burning rush and difficulty to breathe. :scratch
Thank God, it's over now

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Uhm :oops: *undusts his Quenya course and starts reading like hell so he won't look like a complete loser when ppl will ask for his help*

Honestly, Bréogan, your knowledge is much better, as I haven't done serious Quenya-ing for 2 or 3 years now :D
But yes, some long time ago I was a true master ;)


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Didi wrote:
Uhm :oops: *undusts his Quenya course and starts reading like hell so he won't look like a complete loser when ppl will ask for his help*

Honestly, Bréogan, your knowledge is much better, as I haven't done serious Quenya-ing for 2 or 3 years now :D
But yes, some long time ago I was a true master ;)
Then keep dusting. My elf is supposed to be fluently in Quenya. I however, am illiterate on the subject. Luckily, that muse is still somewhat in a vanished state at the moment. After all, I wouldn't want to put any pressure on you. :P

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Breogán wrote:

THobbit, Alandriel
Doctors have no idea what caused the violent alergic reaction - whatever it was it landed me on the ER at 2 AM, with face and hands the size of ballons, burning rush and difficulty to breathe. :scratch
Thank God, it's over now
:Q Ewwwwww!
Maybe it was stress-induced? Or something bit you?
Anyway, good to hear you're better! :hug:

(Or maybe you have become allergic to Eomer? In which case it's maybe best to let someone else keep him for you, at least until you've had some allergy treatment. ;) )

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"Quien tuvo, retuvo"... ;) that is, I'm sure you only need to brush up on your Quenya a lil' bit and you'll be flying once again. :)
I'll seriously appreciate having someone around who can give me a hand with the linguistic needs of this people, someone who is more proficient than I am in some languages and can correct the mistakes I'm bound to make :D
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Or maybe you have become allergic to Eomer? In which case it's maybe best to let someone else keep him for you, at least until you've had some allergy treatment. )
Hmmm... let me think... :scratch
NO! :LMAO: ;)

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sigh....... to bad, about Eomer that is. I kind of had my hopes up too ;) but good to hear you're well on the mend. Things like that are ssccccaarey :hug: btw... Bre... you remember RP? :halo: Perhaps you'd like to read up a bit somewhere..... :whistle:

But back to business.....

What would be a good name for a .... erm... fell beast? Something really hideous and vile, in Quenya? :halo:

I've been wracking my brain, but can't even come up with something I could submit for translation. Perhaps it better works the other way round and you could give me some suggestions.

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For names I usually use the Quenya Babybook, http://www.elvish.org/elm/names.html

But I was too lazy to browse them all (most names are positive qualities anyway ;)) so I picked some random elements that could maybe be useful :D

erde seed
tur ruler
more/morqua/morna dark
sára bitter
tuo physical strength
rista cut
narmo/ráco wolf
ango snake

erdemortur? :P ruler of dark seeds :P
sárango bitter snake

I am not really creative in compounding well-sounding names sorry :D


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