MariaHobbit wrote: I can't believe you guys put this stuff up in here. There are over 50 members of this messageboard who've never even posted once. You don't know a thing about them and here you are giving them your personal info.
To which Estel replied:
And Marco responded:
Estel wrote: Well, if they've never posted, I'd say the Rangers - with their new powers - have the right to take away their ability to see this particular forum.
And several posters agreed with them.
Marco wrote: Actually, that's a good idea - we could institute a rule that they can't access the Members' Lounge until they've made one post.
What say ye?
The new Charter says, in part:
Note that we currently have 52 members who have activated but never posted, and 12 who have posted only once (including estellie's_b00bfies, some RP characters, and others who haven't posted since 2005). Some of these are names we've seen on TORC, but others we really don't know the identity of.
Charter wrote: The primary duty of the Rangers is to perform normal administrative tasks like setting the permissions for new members, moving or splitting threads where necessary, and administrating the Ranger pool (and facillitating the smooth flow of replacements). However, the Rangers are also charged with ensuring that the culture of respect is maintained, in those rare instances where simple member-moderation is not sufficient. Rangers have broad discretion to take whatever actions they deem necessary to accomplish that goal, including but not limited to editing posts, moving posts or threads to the "Bike Racks" forum where disputes are to take place, or, if necessary, restricting members' rights to post in one or more forums.
Any member who is restricted from posting in one or more forum for longer than two weeks time can request that the action be ratified or rejected by a vote of the whole membership, with a simple majority prevailing. Any other action can be similarly reviewed if called for by the member affected, and is seconded by at least two other members.
I'd like to interpret the Charter as allowing the Rangers to make this change - that is, to deny access to the Members' Lounge to anyone who has not posted at all, or not posted more than once (or 5 times, or whatever you think is a good number of posts to get to know someone). To achieve this, we would first have to notify all the non-posters and one-time posters we already have, then we'd need to notify any new posters of our policy upon sign up. Here's how I propose to do it:
CULLING NON-POSTERS NOW:
1. A ranger immediately sets up a new group, the "tempnopost" group, and puts all members with fewer than two posts into it. The ranger also sets up a "validnopost" group, but doesn't put anyone in it yet.
2. A ranger then emails each person in the tempnopost group with the following message:
3. If there is no reply within two weeks, the poster is assumed to be a bot or a dud email, and it is banned or deactivated. If the person replies but wants to remain non-posting, the person taken out of the "tempnopost" group and is put into the "validnopost" group. If the person posts at least twice, then that person is taken out of the "tempnopost" group and put into the "all_members" group.
Quote: This message has been sent to you because you have signed up to be a member of Board77. Because we have not heard from you, and don't know if you are a real person or a bot, we have partially restricted your access. You will no longer be able to read the Members Lounge Forum, until you have posted at least twice on this board. You may want to start out by introducing yourself in the thread "Welcome to Board77! Come in and introduce yourself. " in the Welcome/Info Forum. If you would rather not post, but want to continue to have access to the rest of the forums, please reply to this email and tell us to keep you as a member. Next month, we will be culling all members from our rosters who have never posted, and who have not responded to email inquiries. We look forward to hearing from you.
The Rangers of Board77
This would require some work on our part, but would be a one time action, and I suspect most of the 50 non-posters will not be heard from in two weeks, and can all be deactivated.
FOR ALL FUTURE SIGNUPS:
We give them a notice as follows:
I'm sure one of you can make this sound a little more warm and fuzzy than I have.
Quote: This message has been sent to you because you have signed up to be a member of Board77. We require that you post at least twice in the forums open to everyone, before you are granted access to read and post in the Members Lounge Forum. You may want to start out by introducing yourself in the thread "Welcome to Board77! Come in and introduce yourself. " in the Welcome/Info Forum. If you would rather not post at all, but want to continue to have access to the rest of the forums, please send a private message (PM) to anyone listed in the signature box below, and ask to stay on as a silent member. If you do not respond to this email by posting in the forums or sending a PM within two weeks, we will have to assume you are a bot, and deactivate you. We look forward to hearing from you.
The Rangers of Board77
So... anybody else want to chime in on this?