from CG
The KOS article differentiates libertarians from Republicans who have grown so embarassed over their own party they are using a name that does not describe them for themselves.
What does that mean? People who proudly call themselves libertarians are not real libertarians? Is that what you are struggling to say in plain words? So it is the almighty Cenedril Gildinaur who is the final and ultimate Word on just who gets to rightfully call themself a libertarian and who is not entitled to the prestigious label? You are going to determine that for them because you possess some qualifications, some knowledge, some credentials, some experience that those faux libertarians do not possess?
Obviously you missed the very first sentence in the article. Or forgot it quickly since it disagrees with your core premise - everyone who disagrees with you is identical.
Not at all. The opinion piece is simply that. And I gave you plenty of concrete real world examples taken directly from a serious hardcore libertarian site - The Ron Paul Forums - Liberty Tree - where libertarians themselves voiced opinions that were contrary to the Daily kos opinion piece. In short, the kos piece simply does not stand up to the actual facts. But you prefer to ignore that.
Here is the premise as laid out at the start of the oped piece
But what about the everyday gun toting townhall screamers and taxcutters and deficit hawks we see on cable news: are they really libertarian as so many claim, or just conservatives in glibertarian clothes?
So this author is the expert on who or who is not a true real genuine authentic honest-to-God libertarian? Or is that you CG? The fact is a simple one and I provided tons of evidence for you taken right from the Ron Paul Forum site for libertarians. Libertarians are among the most enthusiastic gun toters. Libertarians are among the townhall screamers. Libertarians are among the taxcutters. Libertarians are among the deficit hawks. That is no secret or mystery, no puzzle or enigma. In fact CG, several of those descriptive phrases fit you to a tee according to the massive volume of stuff you have written over the years.
It's hilarious that you think KOS is a libertarian site though.
Please quote where I said anything so absurd or ridiculous. I know damn well what Kos is and libertarianism is nothing close to it. When you say things like this, you only succeed in making yourself looks stupid and petty. Anyone can see that the author of the opinion piece is simply incorrect about his statements as evidenced by the words written by libertarians themselves. Libertarians do indeed hold many of the wacko beliefs that the author of the Kos piece said they do not hold. He was wrong. If fact, you need only to examine your own views and you will see that you yourself contradict the Kos piece in your own beliefs and statements. The one about bringing guns to presidential events stands out for you as a sore thumb.
The author of the piece is somebody called Darksyde who says this about himself
I'm a former moderate conservative who is fed up with Bush and Company.
This is who you are defending? A former "moderate conservative" who has now turned against his former idols? It is obvious that Mr. or Mrs. or Ms. Darksyde has precious little knowledge of libertarianism, progressivism or anything else. The bittersweet irony is that this Darksyde character berates and makes fun of recent libertarian converts when he/she admits that they indeed are one themselves. Go back and read his list and then go back and look at the numerous links I gave you to the Ron Paul forums where libertarians support the exact things that Darksyde claims that libertarians do not support. Yes, I know CG, its those old facts and evidence getting in the way of beliefs and philosophy again. They have a way of doing that.
I find it telling that you have set up yourself as some sort of Gatekeeper of the Flame of Libertarianism passing down judgement upon those who have met your strict criteria and are deemed worthy to be blessed with the oils of anointment in the Libertarian Rituals. It is extremely telling as to how you view yourself and how you view the rest of the world. You yourself CG did not even see fit to vote for the official Libertarian Party candidate for President last year and instead wrote in the name of your favorite Republican. But now you set yourself up in judgement over who is truly deserving and who is not deserving to be called a libertarian. Fascinating.
In the new TIME magazine article on the new libertarian poster boy - Glenn Beck - they mention his love of libertarianism. Now I suppose you are going to correct both Beck himself and TIME by denying him the right to claim libertarian beliefs?