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Teherin
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Wow .. I actually managed to see it :)
Ours arrived on Friday .. Chris and I MADE TIME to see it together on Saturday ... loved it and it brought back a lot of memories of last year and the GOTF :)


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So sue me, I was watching it on my mother's computer with the phone ringing constantly and my mother coming in every now and then- I had to say 'LOOK MUM LOOK THIS IS A GOOD PART'....and then she'd walk out just before the good part began.

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I'm avoiding like hell all the ROTK EE spoilers since my copy hasnt arrived yet from the UK :rage: but curiosity is killing me...
Could any of you, lucky enough to have seen the film, confirm if there is any extra dialogues in Elvish or Anglo-Saxon? :D

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None, I'm afraid, but in the first documentary on Disc 3: The Legacy Of JRRT, there's a documentary on how he evolved the two main elvish languages.

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Damn! po'ed

Thanks Steve. :wink:

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Hi, I'm just back from watching the whole thing (the 3 EEs) and as you can imagine I'm shattered...

Bré, like Steve said, there are no extra lines in other than English, sorry. :( RotK does suffer a bit in that department by comparisn with the other two.

But it has Quenya. :mrgreen:

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I enquired about "Elvish", so that includes Quenya. :wink:

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But there's nothing new, just Aragorn singing "Et Earello Endorenna utúlien..." :mrgreen:

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I like the word 'utulien'. It sounds like the Polish 'utule' which means 'I'll hold you to make you feel better'.


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Has anyone recognised Tolkien's voice saying "A Elbereth Gilthoniel, silivren penna míriel" when Aragon is trying to master the Palantir and sees Arwen dying?

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Breogan - no. Did they actually use a sound clip? Or channel his ghost?

"Et Earello Endorenna utúlien..." sounds Elvish to me. What does he say? "Come all ye loaden and worried ones, and get polish group hugs..." ?
I just saw there was an alternate shot of him "just speaking" these rites. Augh, it was as poetic as Rumsfeld announcing somwthing.

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Et Earello Endorenna utúlien
Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn´ambar-metta


Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come
It shall be my dweling, and that of my descendants, until the end of the world

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I watched it yesterday (and the day before yesterday) - and my husband fell asleep.....

and in the middle of the coronation said: "what are they already? Gremlins? Gobbelins?" :help: :rage:

And it was okay, even if not as breathtaking as the two precendent EEs - maybe it's a question of getting used to it. And TTT needed an EE, whereas ROTK was more or less all right before already.


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Well, ROTK was already the longest Theatrical, and there weren't all that many things added. Instead of a lot of short new scenes, we have the long Isengard, Corsairs, and MoS sequences. The rest is variations in editing. ROTK was breathtaking enough before the EE.

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I remember awarding an 4/10 to the TE of ROTK after having seen it once. On following viewings, it managed to score a 5.
After having watched the EE once, and probably being a victim of the first view syndrome, I give it almost a 6/10...
I reckon I quite safely say, to me, ROTK has been the great disappointment in this trilogy.

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And I loved it most of the three... but that may be because it's also my favourite book of the three, plus the best bits of TTT...

I don't know. I'm past nitpicking, I just sit and enjoy.

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It is my favourite part of the book too, hence the disappointment.

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The thing with me is my disappointment has a very short attention span. When I saw FOTR for the first time, I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. By the eighth time I was set on laughing. I guess I just accepted PJ's adaptation. Sometimes it's just dumb, like Osgiliath, but I ignore those times. Sometimes it's a matter of taste, like the washing up liquid army of the dead, and for those times I just adapt my taste. It's not how I saw it, but I can see it my own way when I read the book. It's not gonna change in the movie, might as well accept it and enjoy it.


(I actually bought a glow in the dark King of the Dead action figure today. He kicks ass. And was cheap, too.)

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Well, I think I've kept an open mind throughout the whole trilogy.
Even being quite the purist, I understand the inner difficulties of telling such a story in such specific format. I also understand this is PJ's vision of LOTR, and so, certain changes have not bothered me much or at all, and I believe a few of these changes are great calls made by PJ, which enriched the story, even surpassing the original material JRRTolkien wrote... but ROTK still is a great disappointment. :cry:

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I am with Breogan on this, I see the films and book as two seperate tellings of the same tale. A bit like reading Mort d'Arthur and watching 'King Arthur'.

I do enjoy both, and I think I am over the dissapointment of ROTK now. Must watch EE over the weekend to see :mrgreen:

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