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Post subject: Ultimate Best Scene Poll (UPDATED RESULTS 9/3)
Posted: Tue 12 Jul , 2005 4:50 am
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[NOTE: Updated results follow original results]Here are the results. Thanks to all who took the time to rate the scenes (or chapters, really). We had a total of 39 participants, of which 32 rated all (or almost all) of the chapters. Special thanks to Lidless for his spreadsheet help (TLE, if any of this is wrong, don't be shy about speaking up).

I was just going to list the top 25 and bottom 10 or so, but what the hell, I'll list the full list. FOTR scenes are green, TTT are red, and ROTK is blue (to match the EE DVD cases).

1.— 46. The Ride of the Rohirrim 9.805556
2.— 45. The Departure of Boromir 9.618421
3.— 72. The End of All Things 9.328378
4.— 1. Prologue 9.3125
5.— 36. The Bridge of Khazad-dûm 9.258974
6.— 11. Minas Tirith 9.2
7.— 4. Very Old Friends 9.130769
8.— 1. The Foundations of Stone 9.089189
9.— 66. "I Can't Carry It For You...But I Can Carry You" 9.08
10.— 44. The Breaking of the Fellowship 9.077778
11.— 19. The Lighting of the Beacons 9.071429
12.— 34. A Journey in the Dark 9.04
13.— 46. The Road Goes Ever On... 8.986757
14.— 38. Arwen's Fate 8.921053
15.— 70. The Crack of Doom 8.904412
16.— 43. Parth Galen 8.882353
17.— 41. Farewell to Lórien 8.864706
18.— 68. Mount Doom 8.844118
19.— 46. "Where is the Horse and the Rider?" 8.841429
20.— 6. Farewell Dear Bilbo 8.818919
21.— 3. The Shire 8.8
22.— 49. "A Far Green Country" 8.794444
23.— 59. The Flooding of Isengard 8.766667
24.— 28. The Sacrifice of Faramir 8.737143
25.— 27. The Council of Elrond 8.724324
26.— 42. The Great River 8.719444
27.— 69. "The Eagles Are Coming!" 8.714706
28.— 48. The Battle of the Pelennor Fields 8.702857
29.— 5. A Long-expected Party 8.7
30.— 67. The Last Move 8.688235
31.— 15. Minas Morgul 8.669118
32.— 30. Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit 8.657143
33.— 11. The Passing of the Elves 8.583333
34.— 76. The Grey Havens 8.580556
35.— 71. Sauron Defeated 8.579412
36.— 29. Bilbo's Gifts 8.562857
37.— 74. The Return of the King 8.5625
38.— 10. The Shadow of the Past 8.547143
39.— 50. The Nazgûl and His Prey 8.544444
40.— 23. Many Meetings 8.527778
41.— 31. The Ring Goes South 8.526389
42.— 54. The Passing of Théoden 8.488571
43.— 29. Gollum and Sméagol 8.487143
44.— 22. Simbelmynëë on the Burial Mounds 8.4625
45.— 52. Shieldmaiden of Rohan 8.451351
46.— 58. Forth Eorlingas 8.445946
47.— 21. The Funeral of Théodred 8.414286
48.— 65. The Black Gate Opens 8.404412
49.— 30. The Departure of the Fellowship 8.4
50.— 11. The Riders of Rohan 8.4
51.— 2. Concerning Hobbits 8.387179
52.— 66. Gollum's Plan 8.385714
53.— 12. The Decline of Gondor 8.370588
54.— 41. Sons of the Steward 8.361429
55.— 33. Moria 8.352778
56.— 39. Merry's Simple Courage 8.327273
57.— 75. Homeward Bound 8.319444
58.— 56. The Last March of the Ents 8.311765
59.— 3. The Taming of Smééagol 8.311429
60.— 43. The Choices of Master Samwise 8.275
61.— 20. Thééoden's Decision 8.257143
62.— 22. The Wizard's Pupil 8.212121
63.— 34. The Muster of Rohan 8.20303
64.— 10. The Reforging of Narsil 8.2
65.— 7. Keep It Secret, Keep It Safe 8.195833
66.— 36. The Siege of Gondor 8.182353
67.— 22. Rivendell 8.181579
68.— 63. The Land of Shadow 8.176471
69.— 15. The White Rider 8.161765
70.— 40. Grond - The Hammer of the Underworld 8.154839
71.— 32. The Pass of Caradhras 8.140541
72.— 24. The Fate of the Ring 8.123529
73.— 41. The Tomb of the Stewards 8.121212
74.— 13. Cross-roads of the Fallen King 8.119118
75.— 4. The Voice of Saruman 8.09697
76.— 45. The Witch King's Hour 8.089706
77.— 9. At the Green Dragon 8.059459
78.— 49. The Battle of the Hornburg 8.054286
79.— 26. Allegiance to Denethor 8.045455
80.— 25. The Sword That Was Broken 8.034286
81.— 14. The Passage of the Marshes 8.020588
82.— 60. The Tales That Really Mattered... 8.014706
83.— 8. The Account of Isildur 7.993056
84.— 26. A Daughter of Kings 7.986765
85.— 36. Isengard Unleashed 7.986765
86.— 21. The Fall of Osgiliath 7.986364
87.— 35. Balin's Tomb 7.974359
88.— 38. Shelob's Lair 7.971429
89.— 42. Breaking the Gate of Gondor 7.955882
90.— 14. "The Deep Breath Before the Plunge" 7.948485
91.— 12. The Fate of Merry and Pippin 7.938235
92.— 9. Arwen's Vision 7.931944
93.— 38. Caras Galadhon 7.930556
94.— 32. "No More Despair" 7.893939
95.— 29. Marshalling at Dunharrow 7.872727
96.— 56. The Houses of Healing 7.871429
97.— 25. Peregrin of the Tower Guard 7.819697
98.— 5. The Three Hunters 7.814706
99.— 16. The Nazgûl 7.791667
100.— 13. Treebeard 7.755882
101.— 7. Massacre at the Fords of Isen 7.741176
102.— 26. The Evenstar 7.736111
103.— 18. The Spoiling of Isengard 7.728571
104.— 37. Lothlórien 7.716667
105.— 58. The Tower of Cirith Ungol 7.706944
106.— 31. Aragorn Takes the Paths of the Dead 7.640625
107.— 39. The Mirror of Galadriel 7.623684
108.— 15. At the Sign of the Prancing Pony 7.618571
109.— 2. Elven Rope 7.605882
110.— 28. The Forests of Ithilien 7.6
111.— 17. Pippin's Task 7.6
112.— 16. The Song of the Entwives 7.6
113.— 18. The Black Gate is Closed 7.591176
114.— 44. Denethor's Madness 7.578788
115.— 20. The King of the Golden Hall 7.572222
116.— 57. The Nazgûl Attack 7.567647
117.— 2. Journey to the Cross-roads 7.560606
118.— 43. Aragorn's Return 7.557353
119.— 13. A Short Cut to Mushrooms 7.556757
120.— 61. The Captain and the White Lady 7.55
121.— 51. The Breach of the Deeping Wall 7.542857
122.— 6. Gollum's Villainy 7.529412
123.— 8. The Palantír 7.529167
124.— 48. The Host of the Eldar 7.522059
125.— 5. Return to Edoras 7.522059
126.— 62. In the Company of Orcs 7.509091
127.— 3. The Road to Isengard 7.5
128.— 8. The Banishment of Éomer 7.494118
129.— 17. The Heir of Númenor 7.486765
130.— 9. On the Trail of the Uruk-hai 7.485294
131.— 30. Andúril - Flame of the West 7.473529
132.— 35. Helm's Deep 7.467647
133.— 53. The Retreat to the Hornburg 7.444286
134.— 33. The Evenstar 7.428571
135.— 16. Sam's Warning 7.411765
136.— 21. Flight to the Ford 7.4
137.— 55. Oaths Fulfilled 7.397059
138.— 57. Pippin Looks After Merry 7.397059
139.— 73. The Fellowship Reunited 7.385714
140.— 17. The Midgewater Marshes 7.374324
141.— 4. The Uruk-hai 7.367647
142.— 18. Osgiliath Invaded 7.359375
143.— 20. The Caverns of Isengard 7.35
144.— 23. The Stairs of Cirith Ungol 7.327273
145.— 1. The Finding of the Ring 7.320833
146.— 61. Fangorn Comes to Helm's Deep 7.309091
147.— 10. Night Camp at Fangorn 7.308824
148.— 40. The Window on the West 7.302727
149.— 14. Bucklebury Ferry 7.3
150.— 42. The Forbidden Pool 7.283824
151.— 7. Éowyn's Dream 7.227273
152.— 24. "Courage is the Best Defense" 7.206061
153.— 23. The King's Decision 7.2
154.— 33. Dwimorberg - The Haunted Mountain 7.195455
155.— 28. Gilraen's Memorial 7.136111
156.— 27. Exodus from Edoras 7.120588
157.— 53. Victory at Minas Tirith 7.102941
158.— 65. "The Battle for Middle-earth is About to Begin" 7.097059
159.— 25. The Ring of Barahir 7.051471
160.— 47. The Pyre of Denethor 7.031429
161.— 55. Osgiliath 7.023529
162.— 60. Aragorn Masters the Palantír 7.014706
163.— 50. Old Entish 6.994118
164.— 44. Entmoot 6.985294
165.— 37. The Grace of the Valar 6.942424
166.— 6. The Burning of the Westfold 6.894118
167.— 64. The Mouth of Sauron 6.854242
168.— 31. Dwarf Women 6.847059
169.— 59. The Last Debate 6.802941
170.— 12. Saruman the White 6.771053
171.— 51. The Black Ships 6.724286
172.— 47. "Don't Be Hasty, Master Meriadoc!" 6.697059
173.— 63. Flotsam and Jetsam 6.671429
174.— 64. Farewell to Faramir 6.655882
175.— 19. A Knife in the Dark 6.650571
176.— 34. The Wolves of Isengard 6.628571
177.— 45. The Glittering Caves 6.520588
178.— 39. The Story Forseen from Lórien 6.5
179.— 24. Brego 6.472857
180.— 19. Ent Draft 6.42
181.— 40. The Fighting Uruk-hai 6.330556
182.— 32. One of the Dúnedain 6.291176
183.— 54. Master Peregrin's Plan 6.219118
184.— 52. The Entmoot Decides 6.082857
185.— 27. The Parting of Sam and Frodo 5.277778
186.— 35. The Paths of the Dead 5.265714
187.— 37. The Corsairs of Umbar 4.242424
188.— 62. The Final Tally

I should note that there was never much doubt about which scene was going to come out on top. The lowest rating for the Ride of the Rohirrim was 8, and that was the only one that ranked it less then 9, and it received 28 10s, the most of any (it should be noted that Arwen's Fate, which finished all the way down at 14, received 24 10s, the fourth most 10s after the Ride and the Departure of Boromir, and the End of All Things, the top three scenes).

Here are the average scores for each film:

FOTR - 8.19040597
TTT - 7.501891534
ROTK - 7.70572246

Its pretty clear which is the favorite. ;) Of those who rated scenes in all three, 21 liked FOTR best, 12 liked ROTK best, and 4 liked TTT best.

The overall average score for all films was 7.831001223


The highest rating was by fisssh at 9.271276596
Iavas was second at 8.925531915 (actually Bandabras Took was at 8.934782609, but he only rated FOTR)

The lowest rating was by halplm at 2.675531915
Jnyusa was next lowest at 4.128205128, but she only ranked a few scenes
Of those who rated all the scenes, Idylle was next lowest at 5.803191489


Athrabeth came closes to the average score, at 7.841489362

I had the smallest deviation from film to film to film: 0.103668262
halplm had the largest: 4.206192359

Iavas and Jude managed to get the exact same score for FOTR (even though though rated different scenes differently): 8.967391304

Kezmoid's rating for FOTR is exactly 8, and Foromir's was exactly 9. :Q

Here are the averages of those who posted here. I'm not including those who PMed or emailed me or posted at TORC:

Frelga - 6.417112299 (FOTR - 7.086956522, TTT - 6.106060606, ROTK - 6.28)
VtF - 7.768617021 (FOTR - 7.77173913, TTT - 7.712121212, ROTK - 7.815789474)
truehobbit - 8.262765957 (FOTR - 8.468478261, TTT - 7.556060606, ROTK - 8.751973684)
Jude - 8.337837838 (FOTR - 8.967391304, TTT - 8.030769231, ROTK - 8.157142857)
Iavas - 8.925531915 (FOTR - 8.967391304, TTT - 8.712121212, ROTK - 9.085526316)
Athrabeth - 7.841489362 (FOTR - 8.067391304, TTT - 7.75, ROTK - 7.784210526)
Jeanelf - 7.89893617 (FOTR - 8.402173913, TTT - 7.212121212, ROTK - 8.190789474)
Idylle - 5.803191489 (FOTR - 6.565217391, TTT - 5.651515152, ROTK - 5.473684211)
Prim - 8.018617021 (FOTR - 8.043478261, TTT - 7.151515152, ROTK - 8.756578947)
Ara-Anna - 7.646276596 (FOTR - 7.934782609, TTT - 7.545454545, ROTK - 7.559210526)
Sassy - 7.397340426 (FOTR - 7.77826087, TTT - 7.312121212, ROTK - 7.240789474)
Lhaewin 7.819148936 (FOTR - 8.239130435, TTT - 7.348484848, ROTK - 7.973684211)
Maiden - 7.070695187 (FOTR - 7.240652174, TTT - 6.574615385, ROTK - 7.392105263)
Mrs.Whatsit - 8.1875 (scenes from FOTR only)
Kezmoid - 7.85106383 (FOTR - 8, TTT - 7.651515152, ROTK - 7.934210526)
Bornilon - 7.882978723 (FOTR - 8.326086957, TTT - 7.621212121, ROTK - 7.842105263)
Anthriel - 8.189839572 (FOTR - 8.152173913, TTT - 7.830769231, ROTK - 8.519736842)
Di - 8.236702128 (FOTR - 9.097826087, TTT - 7.848484848, ROTK - 8.052631579)
ttbk - 7.180851064 (FOTR - 7.760869565, TTT - 7.151515152, ROTK - 6.855263158)
Lacemaker - 8.837765957 (FOTR - 9.141304348, TTT - 8.643939394, ROTK - 8.822368421)
Jewel - 8.680851064 (FOTR - 8.782608696, TTT - 8.181818182, ROTK - 9.052631579)
Leafy - 7.2 (FOTR - 7.166666667, TTT - 7.461538462, ROTK - 7.05)*
Tinsel - 7.227272727 (FOTR - 7.125, TTT - 7.7, ROTK - 7.185185185)*
Axordil - 7.808510638 (FOTR - 7.869565217, TTT - 7.409090909, ROTK - 8.118421053)
HaplosDog - 8.707446809 (FOTR - 8.858695652, TTT - 8.446969697, ROTK - 8.842105263)
Teremia - 7.994680851 (FOTR - 8.195652174, TTT - 7.636363636, ROTK - 8.184210526)
Jnyusa - 4.128205128 (FOTR - 4.941176471, TTT - 4.066666667, ROTK - 2.285714286)*
Lady Ro - 7.988510638 (FOTR - 8.545869565, TTT - 6.897575758, ROTK - 8.598552632)
fisssh - 9.271276596 (FOTR - 9.315217391, TTT - 9.166666667, ROTK - 9.335526316)
Lidless - 8.053191489 (FOTR - 8.565217391, TTT - 7.878787879, ROTK - 7.894736842)
Alatar - 8.946808511 (FOTR - 9.326086957, TTT - 8.772727273, ROTK - 8.868421053)
halplm - 2.675531915 (FOTR - 5.630434783, TTT - 1.424242424, ROTK - 1.973684211)
Eru - 8.411702128 (FOTR - 8.47826087, TTT - 8.128787879, ROTK - 8.617105263)
Yov - 8.860984848 (FOTR - 8.494444444, TTT - 9.046031746, ROTK - 8.907575758)
Foromir - 8.606382979 (FOTR - 9, TTT - 8.303030303, ROTK - 8.631578947)
TORN - 7.760638298 (FOTR - 7.782608696, TTT - 7.439393939, ROTK - 8.026315789)

* indicates only some chapters in each film ranked

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Here is the updated list after adding in Impy's FOTR scores and Tosh and Cerin's scores for the three films. The biggest change in the top 10 is Very Old Friends dropping from No. 7 to No. 10. I haven't color coded them as of yet:

1. 46. The Ride of the Rohirrim 9.7894742.
2. 45. The Departure of Boromir 9.54878
3. 72. The End of All Things 9.35
4. 1. Prologue 9.162791
5. 36. The Bridge of Khazad-dûûm 9.145238
6. 11. Minas Tirith 9.136842
7. 66. "I Can't Carry It For You...But I Can Carry You" 9.089189
8. 44. The Breaking of the Fellowship 9.058974
9. 1. The Foundations of Stone 9.058974
10. 4. Very Old Friends 9.05
11. 34. A Journey in the Dark 9.023684
12. 19. The Lighting of the Beacons 8.986486
13. 68. Mount Doom 8.848571
14. 59. The Flooding of Isengard 8.837143
15. 49. "A Far Green Country" 8.827027
16. 46. The Road Goes Ever On... 8.81275
17. 38. Arwen's Fate 8.8
18. 70. The Crack of Doom 8.798611
19. 41. Farewell to Lóórien 8.794595
20. 46. "Where is the Horse and the Rider?" 8.741892
21. 42. The Great River 8.741026
22. 48. The Battle of the Pelennor Fields 8.718919
23. 69. "The Eagles Are Coming!" 8.702778
24. 43. Parth Galen 8.702703
25. 15. Minas Morgul 8.6875
26. 3. The Shire 8.665
27. 6. Farewell Dear Bilbo 8.645
28. 5. A Long-expected Party 8.620513
29. 67. The Last Move 8.611429
30. 27. The Council of Elrond 8.6075
31. 30. Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit 8.594595
32. 76. The Grey Havens 8.576316
33. 11. The Passing of the Elves 8.564103
34. 31. The Ring Goes South 8.524359
35. 50. The Nazgûûl and His Prey 8.515789
36. 29. Bilbo's Gifts 8.492105
37. 71. Sauron Defeated 8.463889
38. 54. The Passing of Thééoden 8.462162
39. 23. Many Meetings 8.461538
40. 28. The Sacrifice of Faramir 8.454054
41. 74. The Return of the King 8.453947
42. 58. Forth Eorlingas 8.435897
43. 21. The Funeral of Thééodred 8.430556
44. 29. Gollum and Smééagol 8.406757
45. 11. The Riders of Rohan 8.405405
46. 52. Shieldmaiden of Rohan 8.402564
47. 10. The Shadow of the Past 8.398684
48. 66. Gollum's Plan 8.391892
49. 22. Simbelmynëë on the Burial Mounds 8.359211
50. 30. The Departure of the Fellowship 8.315789
51. 43. The Choices of Master Samwise 8.315278
52. 39. Merry's Simple Courage 8.308571
53. 75. Homeward Bound 8.302632
54. 65. The Black Gate Opens 8.298611
55. 3. The Taming of Smééagol 8.294595
56. 56. The Last March of the Ents 8.294444
57. 12. The Decline of Gondor 8.294444
58. 2. Concerning Hobbits 8.288095
59. 33. Moria 8.274359
60. 20. Thééoden's Decision 8.27027
61. 41. Sons of the Steward 8.260811
62. 34. The Muster of Rohan 8.22
63. 22. Rivendell 8.217073
64. 40. Grond - The Hammer of the Underworld 8.2125
65. 22. The Wizard's Pupil 8.171429
66. 41. The Tomb of the Stewards 8.117647
67. 36. The Siege of Gondor 8.116667
68. 13. Cross-roads of the Fallen King 8.1125
69. 63. The Land of Shadow 8.111111
70. 15. The White Rider 8.097222
71. 49. The Battle of the Hornburg 8.078378
72. 7. Keep It Secret, Keep It Safe 8.052564
73. 14. The Passage of the Marshes 8.033333
74. 60. The Tales That Really Mattered... 8.027778
75. 4. The Voice of Saruman 8.005714
76. 24. The Fate of the Ring 8.005405
77. 9. At the Green Dragon 8.005
78. 32. The Pass of Caradhras 7.98
79. 14. "The Deep Breath Before the Plunge" 7.965714
80. 26. A Daughter of Kings 7.959722
81. 36. Isengard Unleashed 7.959722
82. 21. The Fall of Osgiliath 7.958571
83. 42. Breaking the Gate of Gondor 7.957143
84. 10. The Reforging of Narsil 7.945946
85. 12. The Fate of Merry and Pippin 7.941667
86. 25. The Sword That Was Broken 7.926316
87. 38. Shelob's Lair 7.918919
88. 8. The Account of Isildur 7.916667
89. 35. Balin's Tomb 7.916667
90. 45. The Witch King's Hour 7.890278
91. 32. "No More Despair" 7.871429
92. 25. Peregrin of the Tower Guard 7.858571
93. 56. The Houses of Healing 7.851351
94. 26. Allegiance to Denethor 7.842857
95. 5. The Three Hunters 7.825
96. 29. Marshalling at Dunharrow 7.794286
97. 9. Arwen's Vision 7.777632
98. 7. Massacre at the Fords of Isen 7.755556
99. 13. Treebeard 7.741667
100. 38. Caras Galadhon 7.730769
101. 58. The Tower of Cirith Ungol 7.722368
102. 16. The Nazgûûl 7.653846
103. 31. Aragorn Takes the Paths of the Dead 7.632353
104. 2. Elven Rope 7.627778
105. 17. Pippin's Task 7.611765
106. 26. The Evenstar 7.602564
107. 51. The Breach of the Deeping Wall 7.594595
108. 20. The King of the Golden Hall 7.581579
109. 18. The Black Gate is Closed 7.558333
110. 37. Lothlóórien 7.546154
111. 28. The Forests of Ithilien 7.537143
112. 61. The Captain and the White Lady 7.534722
113. 44. Denethor's Madness 7.532353
114. 2. Journey to the Cross-roads 7.528571
115. 16. The Song of the Entwives 7.525
116. 3. The Road to Isengard 7.514706
117. 18. The Spoiling of Isengard 7.513158
118. 62. In the Company of Orcs 7.508571
119. 48. The Host of the Eldar 7.493056
120. 9. On the Trail of the Uruk-hai 7.486111
121. 43. Aragorn's Return 7.470833
122. 35. Helm's Deep 7.469444
123. 53. The Retreat to the Hornburg 7.447297
124. 57. Pippin Looks After Merry 7.442857
125. 15. At the Sign of the Prancing Pony 7.438158
126. 5. Return to Edoras 7.4375
127. 39. The Mirror of Galadriel 7.431707
128. 57. The Nazgûûl Attack 7.425
129. 6. Gollum's Villainy 7.416667
130. 13. A Short Cut to Mushrooms 7.415
131. 8. The Banishment of ÉÉomer 7.411111
132. 8. The Palantíír 7.396053
133. 17. The Midgewater Marshes 7.37125
134. 10. Night Camp at Fangorn 7.361111
135. 55. Oaths Fulfilled 7.357143
136. 4. The Uruk-hai 7.347222
137. 73. The Fellowship Reunited 7.337838
138. 61. Fangorn Comes to Helm's Deep 7.329412
139. 40. The Window on the West 7.328286
140. 17. The Heir of Núúmenor 7.320833
141. 16. Sam's Warning 7.305556
142. 21. Flight to the Ford 7.297561
143. 23. The Stairs of Cirith Ungol 7.28
144. 7. ÉÉowyn's Dream 7.25
145. 24. "Courage is the Best Defense" 7.229412
146. 30. Andúúril - Flame of the West 7.225
147. 18. Osgiliath Invaded 7.220588
148. 33. Dwimorberg - The Haunted Mountain 7.212857
149. 14. Bucklebury Ferry 7.2
150. 20. The Caverns of Isengard 7.190789
151. 33. The Evenstar 7.189189
152. 42. The Forbidden Pool 7.184722
153. 27. Exodus from Edoras 7.141667
154. 1. The Finding of the Ring 7.119737
155. 23. The King's Decision 7.077778
156. 53. Victory at Minas Tirith 7.069444
157. 28. Gilraen's Memorial 7.048718
158. 55. Osgiliath 6.994286
159. 25. The Ring of Barahir 6.965278
160. 65. "The Battle for Middle-earth is About to Begin" 6.952778
161. 50. Old Entish 6.937143
162. 44. Entmoot 6.928571
163. 47. The Pyre of Denethor 6.867568
164. 6. The Burning of the Westfold 6.844444
165. 60. Aragorn Masters the Palantíír 6.819444
166. 37. The Grace of the Valar 6.802857
167. 31. Dwarf Women 6.758333
168. 64. The Mouth of Sauron 6.691143
169. 63. Flotsam and Jetsam 6.689189
170. 47. "Don't Be Hasty, Master Meriadoc!" 6.677143
171. 51. The Black Ships 6.676389
172. 34. The Wolves of Isengard 6.621622
173. 12. Saruman the White 6.617073
174. 64. Farewell to Faramir 6.563889
175. 45. The Glittering Caves 6.547222
176. 59. The Last Debate 6.508333
177. 19. A Knife in the Dark 6.441316
178. 19. Ent Draft 6.424324
179. 24. Brego 6.393243
180. 39. The Story Forseen from Lóórien 6.333333
181. 40. The Fighting Uruk-hai 6.305128
182. 32. One of the Dúúnedain 6.219444
183. 54. Master Peregrin's Plan 6.184286
184. 52. The Entmoot Decides 6.024324
185. 35. The Paths of the Dead 5.224324
186. 27. The Parting of Sam and Frodo 5.052632
187. 62. The Final Tally 4.242424
188. 37. The Corsairs of Umbar 4.057143

Impy: 7.695652174 (FOTR only)
Tosh: 7.542553191 (FOTR: 7.804347826, TTT: 7.303030303, ROTK: 7.592105263)
Cerin: 5.560606061 (FOTR: 4.934782609, TTT: 6.137931034, ROTK: 5.483606557)

Cerin replaces Idylle as the second lowest score of those who ranked at least most of the scenes. She also has the distinction of having the biggest jump up from FOTR to TTT.

The overall average has gone down to: 7.768320127

FOTR: 8.085455047
TTT: 7.46333194
ROTK: 7.654703875

They all went down, but FOTR had by far the biggest drop, due primarily to Cerin's particular dislike of that film.

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Okay folks, you can blame Iavas for this. As he pointed out, the only real way to rank the different scenes in the films as to have everyone rank each scene on a scale of 1 to 10. But which scenes should be ranked? The top 5 in the poll I did at TORC? The top 10? 20? 25? 50? 100? And then there is the problem that we ran into with defining what exactly was a scene, and at what point each scene began and ended.

Well, in my usually impossible maverick fasion, I decided to take a different approach. This isn't the TORC poll, or a continuation therein. This is a whole new ball of wax, now that we have the whole film. I think that the only reasonable solution is that we rank every scene from the films. And I think we should define scenes as they are defined on the Extended Edition DVDs. That way there is no question whatsoever about what each scene is, where it begins, or where it ends. (For those who do not own the DVD's do not despair! :cool: Those of us who do will be happy to describe what each scene consists of. :))

Here is the way it works. :D

The poll begins right now. You can paste a ballot here in this thread, and edit it to your hearts content until the poll ends. Or you can PM me your ballot, or email it to me at sador_labadal@yahoo.com. However, if you PM or email it will be more difficult for you to get changes made to it. The poll is open to anyone to participate, board77 members or not. Please encourage your friends at TORN, and CoE and TheOneRing.Com and anyone else to come vote. The more people we have, the more meaningful it will be. But please do not try to vote more then once, either by posting here and then also emailing me, or by using different email addresses.

You can rank as many or as few of the different scenes as you wish, from one to all of them. Obviously, I would prefer that everyone rank all the scenes to get the best possible sample sizes, but I realize that that is unrealistic. I recognize that the level of familiarity with the films varies greatly, and I don't want to limit participation to only people who are big fans of the films or very familiar with them. Some people may have strong postive or negative feelings about some of the different scenes but not really have much opinion about others. I still want those people to be able to participate. If you don't want to rank a particular scene, just leave it blank, or put NR (not ranked) and I just won't count it in determining that scenes overall average ranking. If a scene is not listed on at least half of the ballots submitted, I won't count it at all.

Rank each scene that you rank on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the highest possible ranking. Each person will have to set their own standards for how to rank the scenes. This is a completely subjective exercise folks; you'll get no objective standards from a transcendentalist like me. :)

The poll will remain open until two days before we finally have our big opening celebration, which I am hoping is not going to be until Mossy gets back in the middle of August [edit: the poll will remain open until August 17]. If the celebration gets set too soon (like in a week, as some as spoken of), the poll will have to go longer then that. In that case, I'll leave it up for a month, and then decide when to announce the results.

At the end of the poll I will calculate the average ranking for each scene and when they are announced, I'll post them by each film (for Sassy's sake :love:) as well as probably listing the top overall 20 in order.

So, here is the ballot (I wonder if anyone will actually be crazy enough to do this :scratch ):

Fellowship of the Ring
1. Prologue
2. Concerning Hobbits
3. The Shire
4. Very Old Friends
5. A Long-expected Party
6. Farewell Dear Bilbo
7. Keep It Secret, Keep It Safe
8. The Account of Isildur
9. At the Green Dragon
10. The Shadow of the Past
11. The Passing of the Elves
12. Saruman the White
13. A Short Cut to Mushrooms
14. Bucklebury Ferry
15. At the Sign of the Prancing Pony
16. The Nazgûl
17. The Midgewater Marshes
18. The Spoiling of Isengard
19. A Knife in the Dark
20. The Caverns of Isengard
21. Flight to the Ford
22. Rivendell
23. Many Meetings
24. The Fate of the Ring
25. The Sword That Was Broken
26. The Evenstar
27. The Council of Elrond
28. Gilraen's Memorial
29. Bilbo's Gifts
30. The Departure of the Fellowship
31. The Ring Goes South
32. The Pass of Caradhras
33. Moria
34. A Journey in the Dark
35. Balin's Tomb
36. The Bridge of Khazad-dûm
37. Lothlórien
38. Caras Galadhon
39. The Mirror of Galadriel
40. The Fighting Uruk-hai
41. Farewell to Lórien
42. The Great River
43. Parth Galen
44. The Breaking of the Fellowship
45. The Departure of Boromir
46. The Road Goes Ever On...

The Two Towers
1. The Foundations of Stone
2. Elven Rope
3. The Taming of Sméagol
4. The Uruk-hai
5. The Three Hunters
6. The Burning of the Westfold
7. Massacre at the Fords of Isen
8. The Banishment of Éomer
9. On the Trail of the Uruk-hai
10. Night Camp at Fangorn
11. The Riders of Rohan
12. The Fate of Merry and Pippin
13. Treebeard
14. The Passage of the Marshes
15. The White Rider
16. The Song of the Entwives
17. The Heir of Númenor
18. The Black Gate is Closed
19. Ent Draft
20. The King of the Golden Hall
21. The Funeral of Théodred
22. Simbelmynë on the Burial Mounds
23. The King's Decision
24. Brego
25. The Ring of Barahir
26. A Daughter of Kings
27. Exodus from Edoras
28. The Forests of Ithilien
29. Gollum and Sméagol
30. Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit
31. Dwarf Women
32. One of the Dúnedain
33. The Evenstar
34. The Wolves of Isengard
35. Helm's Deep
36. Isengard Unleashed
37. The Grace of the Valar
38. Arwen's Fate
39. The Story Forseen from Lórien
40. The Window on the West
41. Sons of the Steward
42. The Forbidden Pool
43. Aragorn's Return
44. Entmoot
45. The Glittering Caves
46. "Where is the Horse and the Rider?"
47. "Don't Be Hasty, Master Meriadoc!"
48. The Host of the Eldar
49. The Battle of the Hornburg
50. Old Entish
51. The Breach of the Deeping Wall
52. The Entmoot Decides
53. The Retreat to the Hornburg
54. Master Peregrin's Plan
55. Osgiliath
56. The Last March of the Ents
57. The Nazgûl Attack
58. Forth Eorlingas
59. The Flooding of Isengard
60. The Tales That Really Mattered...
61. Fangorn Comes to Helm's Deep
62. The Final Tally
63. Flotsam and Jetsam
64. Farewell to Faramir
65. "The Battle for Middle-earth is About to Begin"
66. Gollum's Plan

Return of the King
1. The Finding of the Ring
2. Journey to the Cross-roads
3. The Road to Isengard
4. The Voice of Saruman
5. Return to Edoras
6. Gollum's Villainy
7. Éowyn's Dream
8. The Palantír
9. Arwen's Vision
10. The Reforging of Narsil
11. Minas Tirith
12. The Decline of Gondor
13. Cross-roads of the Fallen King
14. "The Deep Breath Before the Plunge"
15. Minas Morgul
16. Sam's Warning
17. Pippin's Task
18. Osgiliath Invaded
19. The Lighting of the Beacons
20. Théoden's Decision
21. The Fall of Osgiliath
22. The Wizard's Pupil
23. The Stairs of Cirith Ungol
24. "Courage is the Best Defense"
25. Peregrin of the Tower Guard
26. Allegiance to Denethor
27. The Parting of Sam and Frodo
28. The Sacrifice of Faramir
29. Marshalling at Dunharrow
30. Andúril - Flame of the West
31. Aragorn Takes the Paths of the Dead
32. "No More Despair"
33. Dwimorberg - The Haunted Mountain
34. The Muster of Rohan
35. The Paths of the Dead
36. The Siege of Gondor
37. The Corsairs of Umbar
38. Shelob's Lair
39. Merry's Simple Courage
40. Grond - The Hammer of the Underworld
41. The Tomb of the Stewards
42. Breaking the Gate of Gondor
43. The Choices of Master Samwise
44. Denethor's Madness
45. The Witch King's Hour
46. The Ride of the Rohirrim
47. The Pyre of Denethor
48. The Battle of the Pelennor Fields
49. "A Far Green Country"
50. The Nazgûl and His Prey
51. The Black Ships
52. Shieldmaiden of Rohan
53. Victory at Minas Tirith
54. The Passing of Théoden
55. Oaths Fulfilled
56. The Houses of Healing
57. Pippin Looks After Merry
58. The Tower of Cirith Ungol
59. The Last Debate
60. Aragorn Masters the Palantír
61. The Captain and the White Lady
62. In the Company of Orcs
63. The Land of Shadow
64. The Mouth of Sauron
65. The Black Gate Opens
66. "I Can't Carry It For You...But I Can Carry You"
67. The Last Move
68. Mount Doom
69. "The Eagles Are Coming!"
70. The Crack of Doom
71. Sauron Defeated
72. The End of All Things
73. The Fellowship Reunited
74. The Return of the King
75. Homeward Bound
76. The Grey Havens
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I was afraid you were going to say that. :help:



This might just be the best way to procastinate ever! :D :blackeye

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I'm up for it. Its a good thing we get to revise. I couldn't possibly be consistent about so many things for a month.

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I'm going to do this.

I'm also insane.

This could take awhile.

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V, what are you doing, trying to spark a rebound in EE DVD sales? :Q Yeah, I'm crazy enough to do it, but gradually. Very gradually.

Actually, I think it's a brilliant idea, and a perfect demonstration of the spirit of fairness and open communication that this board carries to its most absurd extreme. :help:

To start:
Fellowship of the Ring
1. Prologue 8
2. Concerning Hobbits 8
3. The Shire 9
4. Very Old Friends 9
5. A Long-expected Party 10
6. Farewell Dear Bilbo 10
7. Keep It Secret, Keep It Safe 9
8. The Account of Isildur 6
9. At the Green Dragon 6
10. The Shadow of the Past 8
11. The Passing of the Elves 7
12. Saruman the White 5
13. A Short Cut to Mushrooms 6
14. Bucklebury Ferry 5
15. At the Sign of the Prancing Pony 7
16. The Nazgûl 4
17. The Midgewater Marshes 5
18. The Spoiling of Isengard 7
19. A Knife in the Dark 5
20. The Caverns of Isengard 7
21. Flight to the Ford 7
22. Rivendell 6
23. Many Meetings 6
24. The Fate of the Ring 6
25. The Sword That Was Broken 7
26. The Evenstar 4
27. The Council of Elrond 8
28. Gilraen's Memorial 3
29. Bilbo's Gifts 8
30. The Departure of the Fellowship 7
31. The Ring Goes South 9
32. The Pass of Caradhras 7
33. Moria 8
34. A Journey in the Dark 7
35. Balin's Tomb 6
36. The Bridge of Khazad-dûm 9
37. Lothlórien 7
38. Caras Galadhon 6
39. The Mirror of Galadriel 8
40. The Fighting Uruk-hai 8
41. Farewell to Lórien 8
42. The Great River 8
43. Parth Galen 8
44. The Breaking of the Fellowship 8
45. The Departure of Boromir 9
46. The Road Goes Ever On... 7

The Two Towers
1. The Foundations of Stone 7
2. Elven Rope 7
3. The Taming of Sméagol 8
4. The Uruk-hai 7
5. The Three Hunters 7
6. The Burning of the Westfold 5
7. Massacre at the Fords of Isen 5
8. The Banishment of Éomer 5
9. On the Trail of the Uruk-hai 7
10. Night Camp at Fangorn 6
11. The Riders of Rohan 7
12. The Fate of Merry and Pippin 6
13. Treebeard 7
14. The Passage of the Marshes 7
15. The White Rider 6
16. The Song of the Entwives 5
17. The Heir of Númenor 4
18. The Black Gate is Closed 7
19. Ent Draft 6
20. The King of the Golden Hall 7
21. The Funeral of Théodred 7
22. Simbelmynë on the Burial Mounds 7
23. The King's Decision 7
24. Brego 4
25. The Ring of Barahir 7
26. A Daughter of Kings 8
27. Exodus from Edoras 5
28. The Forests of Ithilien 6
29. Gollum and Sméagol 8
30. Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit 10
31. Dwarf Women 3
32. One of the Dúnedain 4
33. The Evenstar 4
34. The Wolves of Isengard 8
35. Helm's Deep 7
36. Isengard Unleashed 8
37. The Grace of the Valar 4
38. Arwen's Fate 7
39. The Story Forseen from Lórien 5
40. The Window on the West 8
41. Sons of the Steward 10
42. The Forbidden Pool 8
43. Aragorn's Return 5
44. Entmoot 4
45. The Glittering Caves 3
46. "Where is the Horse and the Rider?" 9
47. "Don't Be Hasty, Master Meriadoc!" 5
48. The Host of the Eldar 7
49. The Battle of the Hornburg 8
50. Old Entish 4
51. The Breach of the Deeping Wall 5
52. The Entmoot Decides 2
53. The Retreat to the Hornburg 6
54. Master Peregrin's Plan 5
55. Osgiliath 7
56. The Last March of the Ents 8
57. The Nazgûl Attack 5
58. Forth Eorlingas 7
59. The Flooding of Isengard 7
60. The Tales That Really Mattered... 6
61. Fangorn Comes to Helm's Deep 7
62. The Final Tally 0
63. Flotsam and Jetsam 4
64. Farewell to Faramir 5
65. "The Battle for Middle-earth is About to Begin" 5
66. Gollum's Plan 8

Return of the King
1. The Finding of the Ring 7
2. Journey to the Cross-roads 7
3. The Road to Isengard 7
4. The Voice of Saruman 7
5. Return to Edoras 7
6. Gollum's Villainy 7
7. Éowyn's Dream 1
8. The Palantír 3
9. Arwen's Vision 7
10. The Reforging of Narsil 6
11. Minas Tirith 8
12. The Decline of Gondor 4
13. Cross-roads of the Fallen King 6
14. "The Deep Breath Before the Plunge" 5
15. Minas Morgul 7
16. Sam's Warning 5
17. Pippin's Task 5
18. Osgiliath Invaded 7
19. The Lighting of the Beacons 6
20. Théoden's Decision 6
21. The Fall of Osgiliath 6
22. The Wizard's Pupil 6
23. The Stairs of Cirith Ungol 5
24. "Courage is the Best Defense" 5
25. Peregrin of the Tower Guard 5
26. Allegiance to Denethor 7
27. The Parting of Sam and Frodo 0 :rage:
28. The Sacrifice of Faramir 4
29. Marshalling at Dunharrow 6
30. Andúril - Flame of the West
31. Aragorn Takes the Paths of the Dead 7
32. "No More Despair" 6
33. Dwimorberg - The Haunted Mountain 7
34. The Muster of Rohan 8
35. The Paths of the Dead 6
36. The Siege of Gondor 7
37. The Corsairs of Umbar 3
38. Shelob's Lair 7
39. Merry's Simple Courage 6
40. Grond - The Hammer of the Underworld 8
41. The Tomb of the Stewards 6
42. Breaking the Gate of Gondor 5
43. The Choices of Master Samwise 8
44. Denethor's Madness 6
45. The Witch King's Hour 6
46. The Ride of the Rohirrim 9
47. The Pyre of Denethor 3
48. The Battle of the Pelennor Fields 6
49. "A Far Green Country" 1
50. The Nazgûl and His Prey 8
51. The Black Ships 7
52. Shieldmaiden of Rohan 8
53. Victory at Minas Tirith 7
54. The Passing of Théoden 6
55. Oaths Fulfilled 4
56. The Houses of Healing 7
57. Pippin Looks After Merry 8
58. The Tower of Cirith Ungol 8
59. The Last Debate 7
60. Aragorn Masters the Palantír 6
61. The Captain and the White Lady 8
62. In the Company of Orcs 7
63. The Land of Shadow 8
64. The Mouth of Sauron 5
65. The Black Gate Opens 6
66. "I Can't Carry It For You...But I Can Carry You" 8
67. The Last Move 7
68. Mount Doom 9
69. "The Eagles Are Coming!" 7
70. The Crack of Doom 8
71. Sauron Defeated 6
72. The End of All Things 8
73. The Fellowship Reunited 7
74. The Return of the King 7
75. Homeward Bound 8
76. The Grey Havens 9

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Well, ain't this the perfect excuse to actually watch the films! I need to do it, as I've only seen RoTK once, at release, and I haven't watched the others since the week before that release.

And now I have the EE's in my possession! *looks greedy*

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Can I give a negative ranking? Just for the osgiliation, you understand...

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LOL, Voronwe, great idea - if you are crazy enough to count that ballot, I'm sure crazy enough to rank all the scenes! :D

Step by step, like Frelga. ;)

Hmmmh - is there a prize for picking the winning scene? ;) :P

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Ahhhh.... this takes me back to my polling days on TORC :D

I'm really looking forward to this! :)

No time to vote right now, but I do have an idea of one thing that can be done with the data. If Steve is up for it, he could do some of his graphs, showing how the scene quality varies as each film progresses.

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I'd rather say our poll would be showing how viewer response varies. ;)

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Okay, here is my ballot (this is hard, isn't it?)

Fellowship of the Ring
1. Prologue 9.5
2. Concerning Hobbits 8
3. The Shire 9
4. Very Old Friends 9.5
5. A Long-expected Party 9
6. Farewell Dear Bilbo 9.5
7. Keep It Secret, Keep It Safe 7
8. The Account of Isildur 7
9. At the Green Dragon 7
10. The Shadow of the Past 8
11. The Passing of the Elves 9
12. Saruman the White 4
13. A Short Cut to Mushrooms 6
14. Bucklebury Ferry 6
15. At the Sign of the Prancing Pony 7
16. The Nazgûl 7
17. The Midgewater Marshes 8
18. The Spoiling of Isengard 6
19. A Knife in the Dark 6
20. The Caverns of Isengard 5
21. Flight to the Ford 7
22. Rivendell 7
23. Many Meetings 7
24. The Fate of the Ring 6
25. The Sword That Was Broken 8
26. The Evenstar 9
27. The Council of Elrond 8
28. Gilraen's Memorial 8
29. Bilbo's Gifts 8
30. The Departure of the Fellowship 7
31. The Ring Goes South 9
32. The Pass of Caradhras 8
33. Moria 8
34. A Journey in the Dark 9
35. Balin's Tomb 7
36. The Bridge of Khazad-dûm 9
37. Lothlórien 7
38. Caras Galadhon 8
39. The Mirror of Galadriel 8
40. The Fighting Uruk-hai 6
41. Farewell to Lórien 9
42. The Great River 9
43. Parth Galen 9.5
44. The Breaking of the Fellowship 9.5
45. The Departure of Boromir 10
46. The Road Goes Ever On... 9

The Two Towers
1. The Foundations of Stone 10
2. Elven Rope 9
3. The Taming of Sméagol 9.5
4. The Uruk-hai 9
5. The Three Hunters 8
6. The Burning of the Westfold 5
7. Massacre at the Fords of Isen 7
8. The Banishment of Éomer 8.5
9. On the Trail of the Uruk-hai 8
10. Night Camp at Fangorn 6
11. The Riders of Rohan 9.5
12. The Fate of Merry and Pippin 8
13. Treebeard 8
14. The Passage of the Marshes 8
15. The White Rider 9
16. The Song of the Entwives 8
17. The Heir of Númenor 8
18. The Black Gate is Closed 7
19. Ent Draft 6
20. The King of the Golden Hall 6.5
21. The Funeral of Théodred 8
22. Simbelmynë on the Burial Mounds 8.5
23. The King's Decision 6.5
24. Brego 7
25. The Ring of Barahir 7
26. A Daughter of Kings 8.5
27. Exodus from Edoras 7
28. The Forests of Ithilien 7
29. Gollum and Sméagol 9
30. Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit 9
31. Dwarf Women 7
32. One of the Dúnedain 7.5
33. The Evenstar 9
34. The Wolves of Isengard7
35. Helm's Deep 8
36. Isengard Unleashed8
37. The Grace of the Valar 8
38. Arwen's Fate 10
39. The Story Forseen from Lórien7.5
40. The Window on the West 7.5
41. Sons of the Steward 9.5
42. The Forbidden Pool 6
43. Aragorn's Return 8
44. Entmoot 8
45. The Glittering Caves7
46. "Where is the Horse and the Rider?"9.5
47. "Don't Be Hasty, Master Meriadoc!" 8
48. The Host of the Eldar 8.5
49. The Battle of the Hornburg 7
50. Old Entish 7
51. The Breach of the Deeping Wall7.5
52. The Entmoot Decides 6
53. The Retreat to the Hornburg 7
54. Master Peregrin's Plan 5.5
55. Osgiliath 8.5
56. The Last March of the Ents8
57. The Nazgûl Attack 10
58. Forth Eorlingas 10
59. The Flooding of Isengard10
60. The Tales That Really Mattered... 8
61. Fangorn Comes to Helm's Deep 8
62. The Final Tally 2
63. Flotsam and Jetsam 4
64. Farewell to Faramir 7.5
65. "The Battle for Middle-earth is About to Begin" 6.5
66. Gollum's Plan 7

Return of the King
1. The Finding of the Ring 7
2. Journey to the Cross-roads 7
3. The Road to Isengard 7
4. The Voice of Saruman 9
5. Return to Edoras 7
6. Gollum's Villainy 6
7. Éowyn's Dream 9.5
8. The Palantír 7
9. Arwen's Vision 8.5
10. The Reforging of Narsil 7
11. Minas Tirith 9
12. The Decline of Gondor 9.5
13. Cross-roads of the Fallen King 8.5
14. "The Deep Breath Before the Plunge" 8
15. Minas Morgul 9
16. Sam's Warning 8.5
17. Pippin's Task 7
18. Osgiliath Invaded 8
19. The Lighting of the Beacons 9.5
20. Théoden's Decision 7.5
21. The Fall of Osgiliath 7
22. The Wizard's Pupil 9.5
23. The Stairs of Cirith Ungol 7
24. "Courage is the Best Defense" 7
25. Peregrin of the Tower Guard 8.5
26. Allegiance to Denethor 7
27. The Parting of Sam and Frodo 5
28. The Sacrifice of Faramir 10
29. Marshalling at Dunharrow 8.5
30. Andúril - Flame of the West 7
31. Aragorn Takes the Paths of the Dead 7
32. "No More Despair" 7
33. Dwimorberg - The Haunted Mountain 7
34. The Muster of Rohan 7
35. The Paths of the Dead 3
36. The Siege of Gondor 7
37. The Corsairs of Umbar 1
38. Shelob's Lair 9
39. Merry's Simple Courage 9.5
40. Grond - The Hammer of the Underworld 9
41. The Tomb of the Stewards 9
42. Breaking the Gate of Gondor 7
43. The Choices of Master Samwise 7
44. Denethor's Madness 7
45. The Witch King's Hour 10
46. The Ride of the Rohirrim 10
47. The Pyre of Denethor 5
48. The Battle of the Pelennor Fields 7
49. "A Far Green Country" 9.5
50. The Nazgûl and His Prey 7.5
51. The Black Ships 7
52. Shieldmaiden of Rohan 8.5
53. Victory at Minas Tirith 5
54. The Passing of Théoden 7.5
55. Oaths Fulfilled 8
56. The Houses of Healing 9
57. Pippin Looks After Merry 7
58. The Tower of Cirith Ungol 7
59. The Last Debate 4
60. Aragorn Masters the Palantír 10
61. The Captain and the White Lady 9
62. In the Company of Orcs 8.5
63. The Land of Shadow 9
64. The Mouth of Sauron 5
65. The Black Gate Opens 9.5
66. "I Can't Carry It For You...But I Can Carry You" 9
67. The Last Move 9.5
68. Mount Doom 9.5
69. "The Eagles Are Coming!" 9
70. The Crack of Doom 9.5
71. Sauron Defeated 8
72. The End of All Things 10
73. The Fellowship Reunited 7
74. The Return of the King 9
75. Homeward Bound 8.5
76. The Grey Havens9.5

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Hmmm...don't know if I'll have time to do this but if I do...I am currently TV-and-DVD-player-less, a problem I hope to remedy in the next couple of weeks...I think I'll sit down and rewatch the movies with a pen n paper an my DVD remote to tell when a scene starts and ends exactly.

If I actually do this completely, I think it puts my insanity ranking at about...oh...I'd say, a 9.7. :blackeye

Whaddya think? Should the ranking be based on how good the scene is compared to other LOTR scenes or compared to other movie scenes in general? For example, the Green Dragon might be an average LOTR scene earning it a 5, but I enjoy it more than your average movie scene earning it perhaps a 7. Which score should I go with for this poll?


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VtF,

If everyone posts in exactly the same format as you have done, I can set up a spreadsheet for you where you merely need to copy and paste into it, and it'll work out the score automatically.

No manual entry required on your part.

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TLE, that would be killer. Of course, getting everyone to follow the same format could be dicey. ;)

Yov, score it however you want to. :) If YOU think the scene is a 7, based on your reaction to it as a LOTR fan or a movie buff or whatever else, it should be a 7. But try to rate all of the scenes that you rate using the same basic standards. :D


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Voronwë_the_Faithful wrote:
Yov, score it however you want to. :)
Well, DUH! ;):D I just wanted to get a feel for how others, like yourself, were doing the rating.


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Should the ranking be based on how good the scene is compared to other LOTR scenes or compared to other movie scenes in general? For example, the Green Dragon might be an average LOTR scene earning it a 5, but I enjoy it more than your average movie scene earning it perhaps a 7. Which score should I go with for this poll?
I am going to judge them against other movies - that is ultimately where PJs film lives or dies. At the same time, the scenes that capture something truly special about the book are the ones most likely to excel against other movies. ;)

Talking of the Green Dragon highlights a possible problem though, with regard to the Green Dragon scene in ROTK. From the chapter listing, it seems this scene is part of a much longer chapter (Homeward Bound). Homeward Bound consists of several small scenes strung together. So do we rate it based on our favourite scene in the chapter, or take an average? It seems something of a shame that we won't get to rate something like The Green Dragon in ROTK as a standalone scene..

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Iavas, I would say a weighted average. If the Green Dragon part of the Homeward Bound scene has particular importance, there is no reason why it can't be given more significance in your scoring then other parts of the scene. Still, the idea is to rate the full scene. For instance, I agree with Faramond that the skull avalanche should get a zero, but there are other parts of the Paths of the Dead scene that I like. I probably won't give that scene more then a 3 overall even though I do like some of it, because what I don't like, I really don't like. ;)


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