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Posted: Fri 02 Sep , 2005 11:48 pm
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I got this sent to me by my mom...I'm not sure which news agency she got it from:

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NEW ORLEANS — Managers at two French Quarter hotels teamed up to hire 10 buses to carry 500 guests to safer ground, but federal officials commandeered the vehicles and told the guests to go to the convention center with other evacuees, one of the managers said.



But aid groups said their efforts were limited in important ways.

"We are not in New Orleans," the Red Cross' Dodge said. The federal Department of "Homeland Security has basically told us they don't want us, our Red Cross folks, in New Orleans because our presence would keep people from evacuating."

A spokesman for the federal agency said Friday that there is not an absolute policy barring relief groups from the entire city, but that its own efforts were taking precedence there.

"There may well be situations where it merits the Red Cross holding back while our personnel go in first," said the spokesman, Russ Knocke. "But our priority is meeting the immediate life-saving and life-sustaining needs of those who've gone through a nightmare."

Other groups also reported that they were not being allowed into the city. MAP International said it was working to send medical supplies to a New Orleans hospital, but that the shipment was being held up by a difficulty in getting the credentials needed for drivers to get through roadblocks set up by the National Guard.



It's not that we can't help others, too, as we did after the tsunami. But is our nation so sapped and distracted by foreign commitments that it can't perform the basic duties of government at home?

That's the view of the guy who heads our local disaster-response agency.

"It's terrorism, terrorism, terrorism, terrorism," said Eric Holdeman, director of King County's Office of Emergency Management. "It's what all the funding is directed towards.

"New Orleans shows the result when known problems aren't addressed because we're fixated on something else."

Holdeman said what happened there — levees not fixed because resources were diverted to fighting terrorism and the war in Iraq — is being repeated here in Seattle.

Example: There has been no earthquake-response drill conducted here since 1998, though we had a major earthquake in 2001 and quakes are the region's most likely catastrophe.

"We don't have freedom to choose what we want to work on," Holdeman said. "It's decided for us, by the Department of Homeland Security, where it's all terrorism, all the time."

He added that the Federal Emergency Management Agency has been gutted and "those of us who deal with disasters have no national leadership, and you're seeing that in New Orleans."
Basically, supposedly, things are set up so much towards Terrorism that natural disasters are barely being considered, and even when they happen, the people who Are prepared for them are being cut out of things by the ones who are in charge...except they Only plan for terrorism.


Has anyone else run into this, read about this stuff happening? I'd like some confirmation, and a bit more detail about what's actually happening.

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Traditional FEMA activities have certainly take a back seat to buying biochem hazard suits for the Wyoming State Police since FEMA got rolled into Homeland Insecurity. :(

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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/090305Y.shtml
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The Two Americas
By Marjorie Cohn
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Saturday 03 September 2005

Last September, a Category 5 hurricane battered the small island of Cuba with 160-mile-per-hour winds. More than 1.5 million Cubans were evacuated to higher ground ahead of the storm. Although the hurricane destroyed 20,000 houses, no one died.

What is Cuban President Fidel Castro's secret? According to Dr. Nelson Valdes, a sociology professor at the University of New Mexico, and specialist in Latin America, "the whole civil defense is embedded in the community to begin with. People know ahead of time where they are to go."

"Cuba's leaders go on TV and take charge," said Valdes. Contrast this with George W. Bush's reaction to Hurricane Katrina. The day after Katrina hit the Gulf Coast, Bush was playing golf. He waited three days to make a TV appearance and five days before visiting the disaster site. In a scathing editorial on Thursday, the New York Times said, "nothing about the president's demeanor yesterday - which seemed casual to the point of carelessness - suggested that he understood the depth of the current crisis."

"Merely sticking people in a stadium is unthinkable" in Cuba, Valdes said. "Shelters all have medical personnel, from the neighborhood. They have family doctors in Cuba, who evacuate together with the neighborhood, and already know, for example, who needs insulin."

They also evacuate animals and veterinarians, TV sets and refrigerators, "so that people aren't reluctant to leave because people might steal their stuff," Valdes observed.

After Hurricane Ivan, the United Nations International Secretariat for Disaster Reduction cited Cuba as a model for hurricane preparation. ISDR director Salvano Briceno said, "The Cuban way could easily be applied to other countries with similar economic conditions and even in countries with greater resources that do not manage to protect their population as well as Cuba does."

Our federal and local governments had more than ample warning that hurricanes, which are growing in intensity thanks to global warming, could destroy New Orleans. Yet, instead of heeding those warnings, Bush set about to prevent states from controlling global warming, weaken FEMA, and cut the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for levee construction in New Orleans by $71.2 million, a 44 percent reduction.

Bush sent nearly half our National Guard troops and high-water Humvees to fight in an unnecessary war in Iraq. Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Paris in New Orleans, noted a year ago, "It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq."

An Editor and Publisher article Wednesday said the Army Corps of Engineers "never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security - coming at the same time as federal tax cuts - was the reason for the strain," which caused a slowdown of work on flood control and sinking levees.

"This storm was much greater than protection we were authorized to provide," said Alfred C. Naomi, a senior project manager in the New Orleans district of the corps.

Unlike in Cuba, where homeland security means keeping the country secure from deadly natural disasters as well as foreign invasions, Bush has failed to keep our people safe. "On a fundamental level," Paul Krugman wrote in yesterday's New York Times, "our current leaders just aren't serious about some of the essential functions of government. They like waging war, but they don't like providing security, rescuing those in need or spending on prevention measures. And they never, ever ask for shared sacrifice."

During the 2004 election campaign, vice presidential candidate John Edwards spoke of "the two Americas." It seems unfathomable how people can shoot at rescue workers. Yet, after the beating of Rodney King aired on televisions across the country, poor, desperate, hungry people in Watts took over their neighborhoods, burning and looting. Their anger, which had seethed below the surface for so long, erupted. That's what's happening now in New Orleans. And we, mostly white, people of privilege, rarely catch a glimpse of this other America.

"I think a lot of it has to do with race and class," said Rev. Calvin O. Butts III, pastor of the Abyssinian Baptist Church in Harlem. "The people affected were largely poor people. Poor, black people."

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin reached a breaking point Thursday night. "You mean to tell me that a place where you probably have thousands of people that have died and thousands more that are dying every day, that we can't figure out a way to authorize the resources we need? Come on, man!"

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff had boasted earlier in the day that FEMA and other federal agencies have done a "magnificent job" under the circumstances.

But, said, Nagin, "They're feeding the people a line of bull, and they are spinning and people are dying. Get off your asses and let's do something!"

When asked about the looting, the mayor said that except for a few "knuckleheads," it is the result of desperate people trying to find food and water to survive.

Nagin blamed the outbreak of violence and crime on drug addicts who have been cut off from their drug supplies, wandering the city, "looking to take the edge off their jones."

When Hurricane Ivan hit Cuba, no curfew was imposed; yet, no looting or violence took place. Everyone was in the same boat.

Fidel Castro, who has compared his government's preparations for Hurricane Ivan to the island's long-standing preparations for an invasion by the United States, said, "We've been preparing for this for 45 years."

On Thursday, Cuba's National Assembly sent a message of solidarity to the victims of Hurricane Katrina. It says the Cuban people have followed closely the news of the hurricane damage in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama, and the news has caused pain and sadness. The message notes that the hardest hit are African-Americans, Latino workers, and the poor, who still wait to be rescued and taken to secure places, and who have suffered the most fatalities and homelessness. The message concludes by saying that the entire world must feel this tragedy as its own.

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Posted: Sun 04 Sep , 2005 6:14 pm
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I think Ax mentioned it in another thread, that although it can be very effective to have the government seize all sources in a time of need, it equates with martial law. Perhaps what is needed is a new rule for times of natural disaster- one that would allow a capable leader to ignore the rules of press conferences, politics, negotiating with companies who can provide help etcetera, but just get on the tv and say 'This is what we will do'. After all, such commands must happen in the background.

Or am I talking complete bull.

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Well, I think your heart is in the right place. :) But I think to be realistic one can not set aside the realities of modern life. But I think that we need to do a better job of making sure that the commands are made in the background.

One of the things that I read recently is that Congress is going to investigate the slow response to allowing National Guard troops from other states to come to Louisiana. Apparently the offer was made from the governors of some states (including California and New Mexico, at least) as early as on Sunday, and accepted by Louisiana's governor right away. However, apparently the necessary federal approval did not go through until Thursday. That is, needless to say, unacceptable.


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Guru -

Much of what you are reading IS true, or at least I have heard the same things from multiple sources, including the people on the scenes relaying the stories directly via news feeds. Chertoff as much as came out and stated yesterday at his press conference that the feds were concerned about coordinating everything to prevent communications problems and other issues, but at the same time, he admitted that this catastrophe has overwhelmed them and caught them off guard.

Sorry to say, but you cannot have it both ways!!! Either they take ownership and utilize the authority that they already have in place and then also assume all responsiblilty for everything, including the total screw ups that have occured so far, or they allow all agencies to participate without trying to micromanage everything.

I hear now there is a political one upmanship taking place between the Feds and Louisiana governor Blanco, the feds want her to reliquish control, and she will not do it. For crying out loud, this is pathetic. Like so many others have noted, what DID occur was woefully inadequate, and when I read of states standing by with people and supplies READY TO GO, private agencies with people and supplies READY TO GO, and they are not being allowed to do so, it just makes me want to go strangle a few bureaucrats.

National Guard people instructed to be stationed on the few remaining exits out of NO preventing people from leaving the city to other parishes? Buses being comandeered that WERE hired to pick up stranded hotel guests that were arranged by the hotels themselves with not so much of a word to the hotels and guests that this even took place? Private citizens in the area being told that they could NOT go out and assist is rescuing survivors? Get off of it. This thing was just fucked up, pure and simple.

The feds bear a lot of the responsibility here by making such a stance about homeland security to begin with, the DHS/FEMA did a great job of hoodwinking people into what it was that they were going to do in the face of a disaster, and sorry if so many of us actually believed it, possibly including those at the local and state levels. Well, for these control freaks in charge of the DHS and FEMA, we have seen a lot of hot air and useless studies, funding for idiotic services in areas that will never most likely have need of them, but when a predicted natural catastrophe occurs, let's all finger point to the people in the states directly affected and blame them. Yep, that is the answer. Somebody did not sign enough quadruple forms and fax them off to sixteen other agencies in time.

Cuba operates under a central government, strictly controlled, and hurricane tragedies there are an all too common national occurance. I am certainly not advocating that we adopt the Cuban model, but there IS much there that could be implemented - shelters with at least a rudimentary amount of food, water, and medical supplies, an emergency evacuation plan for citizens that cannot directly flee an evacuation order, emergency service plans for hosiptals, nursing homes, etc. I am not saying that this would have prevented a Katrina scale tragedy, but it certainly would have at least been better.

There are stories coming in now of nursing homes that could not completely evacuate where all the patients that remained behind have been found dead - elderly people who literally died where they were abandoned. Who knows where the staff went. Other stories of people pleading for their lives trapped in their homes for days who could not be rescued and have since died. These people were known to be where they were, why could nobody get to them in time? Helicopters do not need a cleared road to rescue people.

The likelihood of an extreme terrorist attack are FAR less likely to occur IMO than those catastrophes we know are waiting to occur - the San Andreas faultline, massive wildfires in the western US, tornadoes and severe strorms in the central and northern US, a looming energy crisis that will further compound any of these natural disasters, and a level of savings and resources that are dwindling more and more for many people every year.

Put it this way, the feds better get realisitic about what it exactly IS that the DHS and FEMA are there for, and either put out or shut up. As many have pointed out, and vison so eloquently stated somewhere in one of these threads, "the buck stops here" had better be taken on by someone.

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