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Should we open the board now?
Keep it "invite only", but approve everyone who registers
  
3% [ 1 ]
Yes. Open it to everyone - even people who'll just troll
  
6% [ 2 ]
Let it wait 2-3 days, but open it
  
0% [ 0 ]
Let it wait 2-3 weeks, but open it
  
6% [ 2 ]
Keep it closed, but shorten the invite process
  
52% [ 17 ]
No Change. Keep it as it is now.
  
33% [ 11 ]
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Impenitent
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Posted: Mon 28 Feb , 2005 6:48 am
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A secondary board is rather out-of-left-field. :Q

But how do you envision it? How would it work?

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I would say open the boards - at least read only.

Don't hide a single thread. But - give everyone say two weeks to edit any post they feel they should.

I don't think there'll be much editing required, to be honest.

It's the only way to set the record straight as to what B77 is and was.

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Liddy, the Invite forum should not be viewable to the public. No one will speaks their minds if we do that.

I'd sort of like to keep the Business Forum closed, too, until we're done with a lot of that stuff.

But just about everything else could be read only, as long as we have a chance to remove our addresses and telephone numbers and stuff like that.

I've copied the whole address thread by the way, so I have it on my hard drive if you want to archive it somewhere.

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Posted: Mon 28 Feb , 2005 7:19 am
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What if there was a hidden and invisible forum like Thinking of England?

I know you want to be transparent, Lidless--so do I--but I don't think it's unreasonable to have some personal stuff out of sight. When I throw a party, I don't have the guests mingle in my bedroom. (I know--boring party.) Things like the birthday and home address threads could be there, and so could anything TORC-related.

On TORC right now, they're washing the blood off the walls, telling everyone nothing happened and besides they deserved it, and forbidding any discussion. Eliminating discussion here would have a similar flavor for me, and I think would be similarly unhealthy.

If we confined it out of sight, those who have moved on or to whom it's too painful would not have to see it, just as we've done with the sex forum. Casual visitors (or less than casual ones) would not be able to see it--as I assume would also be true for the sex forum. But most of the forum would be "clean" as you say.

Having privacy is not the same as having secrets.

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Posted: Mon 28 Feb , 2005 10:43 am
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I'm conflicted really. I voted 'yes in 2-3 weeks' because of recent events, but then I read the posts in the thread and I think I'd like to see the board stay closed for a while longer.

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Whoa, hang on. Which of these options is 'open to anyone with admin approval necessary'?

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I really think there's some people we all know belong here, especially after the recent TORC debacle.

Winged_Balrog, for instance deserves to be here without having to wait 2 weeks.

I've been talking to Marty and he is outraged at TORC, I think he's close to planning on going down in flames. I think you all know I'd like to see him here sooner.


Do we have to wait so long before letting them in?


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I don't like the idea of a secondary board - only more split up and many of us don't have time and energy to keep up with two places and I'm afraid that b77 might loose some wonderful member over a secondary board - which I would hate so see happen.

I don't have one single post I would like to see deleted now - I stand behind my words. Each of them.

Le'ts work on making the boards public quickly and not accept any pressure from TORC.

Eventually make them read only, except for the invite forum and Thinking of England - and post a statement that those who after reading are interested my request from any member to be invited - and should explain their motives in the mail.

If there is anything I can do to help.... I am willing to invest time.


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I would like people to be able to read our boards, but not necessarily be able to register and post without admin approval. I'm not sure which of the polling options that corresponds to, so I haven't voted yet.

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*bookmarks jude as potential encyclopaedia*

(just bought a php4 manual and am studying it intensively. :P )

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hmm ... in regard of the recent events (which I noticed only today, having been absentminded and absinth minded as well for the whole long and furious weekend) I say keep it closed, but shorten the invitation process (not too much, maybe a week instead of 9 days).

We got to have some security. This board is vulnerable and I fear TORC "vigilantism".

What we should do is invite anybody who is being banned. I mean not *Anybody*, that would be me, but anybody else.

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Nin wrote:
I don't like the idea of a secondary board - only more split up and many of us don't have time and energy to keep up with two places and I'm afraid that b77 might loose some wonderful member over a secondary board - which I would hate so see happen.

I don't have one single post I would like to see deleted now - I stand behind my words. Each of them.

Le'ts work on making the boards public quickly and not accept any pressure from TORC.

Eventually make them read only, except for the invite forum and Thinking of England - and post a statement that those who after reading are interested my request from any member to be invited - and should explain their motives in the mail.
I agree with everything that Nin says. :)


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I agree with Nin as well. We want to build a community. An ancillary board would be an immediate refuge for disgusted TORCers, but they'd then have to uproot again--more trauma--to come here.

I agree than anyone who's banned outright as a result of this weekend's events should have a fast track here. I also think that no matter what we decide about opening the board (which I strongly support), the invitation process should be shortened. Most invite threads seem to run their course in a day or two once the poll is up, and then sit untouched until the invitation can be sent.

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I'd like to fast-track invitations to anyone who's been banned this weekend. Make it 3 days only.


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I'm gonna make a quick poll in the Invite forum regarding the invtie process, but I'd like to get some input first. Basically, the options running through my head are....

a. Shorten the invite process to two days of discussion & two days of voting for two weeks, then go back to the normal invite process.

b. Shorten the invite process to 1 day of discussion & 2 days of voting for two weeks, then go back to the normal invite process.

c. Leave the invite process the same, but approve banned people immediately.

d. Shorten the invite process as option A, but approve banned people immediately.

e Shorten the invite process as option B, but approve banned people immediately.



What you guys think? Good options?


edit: I've deleted "Leave invite process the same" option, cause lets face it, that just isn't going to happen. no majority is going to vote for that.

and could someone tell me how to spell immediately? It's another one of those words I just can't spell

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Good options, but I think we should shorten the invite period and approve banned people.


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Estel, I would like to invite banned people at once and shorten the regular process.

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I'll add that when I make the poll :) Thanks


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I wonder if this isn't two polls?

One with a short voting period asking whether we should invite the recently banned people immediately. I think this is an emergency.

One with more time for discussion asking whether and how we should shorten the invite process.

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Yes, what Prim says. Thanks, Estellie. :)


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