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Jny, is there anyway we can vote a bit earlier?
I may not be around tomorrow, and that time is a bit late for me usually.
Would it be possible to vote maybe 9-10 EST?

So voting commences between 5 and 6 a.m. Greenwich time on Thursday, 17 March, and ends at the same time on Friday, 18 March (or as soon as we can all be arsed to get our ballots posted in this thread, if that's sooner). Thanks, Jn.

holby, can you send PM's to all members? I have tried to send PMs to multiple people and have not been able to do that.

Thanks everybody for explaining about IRV! Especially Faramond - examples work best!
In my simplicity I'd just have taken "A" to be the winner.

Let's do it like this, then - I'm just glad I don't have to do the counting.

(Is there an automated way of counting maybe - I mean, one of those Excel formulas that lidless writes, maybe? It seems to me this way of counting takes a lot of concentration, and might therefore a bit more error-prone than just counting who gets the most "ayes"?)

(Oh, and could I slap lidless, too, please? )

th--

We're putting it in the Constitution that it's everyone's inalienable right to slap Lidless.

I have been posting too much today...

TH - I will definitely do my counting in an Exel program. For an economist I can't add or subtract worth doggie doo-doo and I always have a calculator at my elbow.

Holby - Let me do the following: the wait is to give everyone a chance to see the ballot and object if necessary. Let me go ahead and paste the ballot into the first or second post of this thread.

You go ahead and vote - but put at the top: Early Ballot, and the time signature (GMT preferred if you can figure it out)

Then we know that if an objection to the ballot arises we have to check whether it affects your vote. If it affects your vote, you'll have to vote again. Good?

Jn

The Ballot now appears in the second post of this thread

That works for me Jny. I can wait until later tonight though just to give it as much time as possible.

V, I can't send a PM to all users, but the Admins can.
I do suggest everyone here take a look at the experimental board.
It gives you some insight as to what is going on behind the scenes.

Holbytla wrote:

V, I can't send a PM to all users, but the Admins can.

Since when?

Thanks for putting the ballot somewhere noticeable Jn because I wasn't sure whre it was.

Could the 25% opposition option please be changed to 20%?

Sorry Eru and V.
I meant mass email.

Lord M - OK, will do. It's your proposal.

Jn

You guys, it's a bit after midnight e.s.t. Do you mind if I open the voting now so that I can go to bed? Thanks.


VOTING IS NOW OPEN

The ballot is in the second post of this thread. Paste it into your own post and fill in your choices. Voting will end when everyone has voted.

Jn

Question #1:

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #6 is your last choice.
#1 = B
#2 = F
#3= A
#4= C
#5= D
#6= E

Question #2:

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #5 is your last choice.
#1 = A
#2 = B
#3= C
#4= D
#5= E

Question #3:

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #8 is your last choice.
#1 = H
#2 = A
#3= E
#4= B
#5= F
#6= C
#7= G
#8 = D

Question #4:

Please show your first choice:
#1 = A

Question #1:
Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #6 is your last choice.
#1 =C
#2 =B
#3=F
#4=D
#5=E
#6=A

Question #2:
Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #5 is your last choice.
#1 =C
#2 =B
#3=A
#4=D
#5=E

Question #3:
Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #8 is your last choice.
#1 =B
#2 =H
#3=A
#4=E
#5=F
#6=C
#7=D
#8 =G

Question #4:
Please show your first choice:
#1 =A

Question #1: How long should the board be allowed to discuss the pieces of the constitution that we put up for discussion?
A. five days
B. one week
C. ten days
D. two weeks
E. two weeks with option to prolong
F. one week with option to prolong

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #6 is your last choice.
#1 = B. one week
#2 = F. one week with option to prolong
#3= C. ten days
#4= D. two weeks
#5= five days
#6= two weeks with option to prolong

Question #2: When the discussion ends and the board votes on whether or not to accept the piece of the constitution presented to them, how long should the approval vote run?
A. eight days, two weekends inclusive
B. 10 days
C. 10 days, two weekends inclusive
D. two weeks
E. two weeks with possible extention (to reach quorum)

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #5 is your last choice.
#1 = eight days, two weekends inclusive
#2 = 10 days, two weekends inclusive
#3= 10 days
#4= two weeks
#5= two weeks with possible extention (to reach quorum)

Question #3: What percentage of the voting members must approve the constitution in order for it to be accepted:
A. 67%, no quorum
B. 67% with 30% quorum (39 members must vote, based on 127 members)
C. 67% with 50% quorum (64 members must vote)
D. 67% with 67% quorum (85 members must vote)
E. 75% no quorum
F. 75% with 30% quorum (39 members must vote)
G. 75% with 50% quorum (64 members must vote)
H. 20% opposition (26 votes against it)

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #8 is your last choice.
#1 = 20% opposition (26 votes against it)
#2 = 67% with 30% quorum (39 members must vote, based on 127 members)
#3= 67% with 50% quorum (64 members must vote)
#4= 67%, no quorum
#5= 67% with 67% quorum (85 members must vote)
#6= 75% no quorum
#7= 75% with 30% quorum (39 members must vote)
#8 = 75% with 50% quorum (64 members must vote)

Question #4: Who should be counted for purposes of determing a quorum?
A. all registered members (127 as of March 12)
B. members active during past two months
only two choices, no ranking needed

Please show your first choice:
#1 =all registered members (127 as of March 12)

Here's my vote. For what's worth, I think you get a fairer, more honest vote if it is done by email so that the people who vote later don't get to see the votes of those who voted earlier. But that's just me, I guess.

Question #1: How long should the board be allowed to discuss the pieces of the constitution that we put up for discussion?
A. five days
B. one week
C. ten days
D. two weeks
E. two weeks with option to prolong
F. one week with option to prolong

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #6 is your last choice.
#1 = A
#2 = B
#3= C
#4= D
#5= F
#6= E

Question #2: When the discussion ends and the board votes on whether or not to accept the piece of the constitution presented to them, how long should the approval vote run?
A. eight days, two weekends inclusive
B. 10 days
C. 10 days, two weekends inclusive
D. two weeks
E. two weeks with possible extention (to reach quorum)

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #5 is your last choice.
#1 = A
#2 = C
#3= B
#4= D
#5= E

Question #3: What percentage of the voting members must approve the constitution in order for it to be accepted:
A. 67%, no quorum
B. 67% with 30% quorum (39 members must vote, based on 127 members)
C. 67% with 50% quorum (64 members must vote)
D. 67% with 67% quorum (85 members must vote)
E. 75% no quorum
F. 75% with 30% quorum (39 members must vote)
G. 75% with 50% quorum (64 members must vote)
H. 20% opposition (26 votes against it)

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #8 is your last choice.
#1 = B
#2 = A
#3= C
#4= E
#5=F
#6= G
#7= D
#8 = H

Question #4: Who should be counted for purposes of determing a quorum?
A. all registered members (127 as of March 12)
B. members active during past two months
only two choices, no ranking needed

Please show your first choice:
#1 =A

Paste this Ballot into your post and add your choices next to their appropriate rank.

Question #1: How long should the board be allowed to discuss the pieces of the constitution that we put up for discussion?
A. five days
B. one week
C. ten days
D. two weeks
E. two weeks with option to prolong
F. one week with option to prolong

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #6 is your last choice.
#1 = E
#2 = F
#3= D
#4= C
#5= B
#6= A

Question #2: When the discussion ends and the board votes on whether or not to accept the piece of the constitution presented to them, how long should the approval vote run?
A. eight days, two weekends inclusive
B. 10 days
C. 10 days, two weekends inclusive
D. two weeks
E. two weeks with possible extention (to reach quorum)

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #5 is your last choice.
#1 = E
#2 = C
#3= A
#4= B
#5= D

Question #3: What percentage of the voting members must approve the constitution in order for it to be accepted:
A. 67%, no quorum
B. 67% with 30% quorum (39 members must vote, based on 127 members)
C. 67% with 50% quorum (64 members must vote)
D. 67% with 67% quorum (85 members must vote)
E. 75% no quorum
F. 75% with 30% quorum (39 members must vote)
G. 75% with 50% quorum (64 members must vote)
H. 20% opposition (26 votes against it)

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #8 is your last choice.
#1 = D
#2 = C
#3= G
#4= F
#5= B
#6= H
#7= E
#8 = A

Question #4: Who should be counted for purposes of determing a quorum?
A. all registered members (127 as of March 12)
B. members active during past two months
only two choices, no ranking needed

Please show your first choice:
#1 = B

Question #1: How long should the board be allowed to discuss the pieces of the constitution that we put up for discussion?
A. five days
B. one week
C. ten days
D. two weeks
E. two weeks with option to prolong
F. one week with option to prolong

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #6 is your last choice.
#1 = C
#2 = D
#3= E
#4= F
#5= B
#6= A

Question #2: When the discussion ends and the board votes on whether or not to accept the piece of the constitution presented to them, how long should the approval vote run?
A. eight days, two weekends inclusive
B. 10 days
C. 10 days, two weekends inclusive
D. two weeks
E. two weeks with possible extention (to reach quorum)

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #5 is your last choice.
#1 = A
#2 = C
#3= D
#4= E
#5= B

Question #3: What percentage of the voting members must approve the constitution in order for it to be accepted:
A. 67%, no quorum
B. 67% with 30% quorum (39 members must vote, based on 127 members)
C. 67% with 50% quorum (64 members must vote)
D. 67% with 67% quorum (85 members must vote)
E. 75% no quorum
F. 75% with 30% quorum (39 members must vote)
G. 75% with 50% quorum (64 members must vote)
H. 20% opposition (26 votes against it)

Please rank your preferences by typing in the letter of your choice next to each number below, where #1 is your first choice and #8 is your last choice.
#1 = C
#2 = B
#3= F
#4= G
#5= D
#6= E
#7= A
#8 = H

Question #4: Who should be counted for purposes of determing a quorum?
A. all registered members (127 as of March 12)
B. members active during past two months
only two choices, no ranking needed

Please show your first choice:
#1 =A

Question #1: How long should the board be allowed to discuss the pieces of the constitution that we put up for discussion?
1 = D two weeks
2 = B. one week
3 = C. ten days
4 = A. five days
5 = F one weeks with option to prolong
6 = E two week with option to prolong


Question #2: When the discussion ends and the board votes on whether or not to accept the piece of the constitution presented to them, how long should the approval vote run?

1 = D two weeks
2 = C 10 days, two weekends inclusive B. 10 days
3 = B 10 days
4 = A eight days, two weekends inclusive
5 = E. two weeks with possible extention (to reach quorum)


Question #3: What percentage of the voting members must approve the constitution in order for it to be accepted:

1 = B. 67% with 30% quorum (39 members must vote, based on 127 members)
2 =H. 20% opposition (26 votes against it)
3 =C. 67% with 50% quorum (64 members must vote)
4 =D. 67% with 67% quorum (85 members must vote)
5 = A. 67%, no quorum
6 = E. 75% no quorum
7 = F. 75% with 30% quorum (39 members must vote)
8 = G. 75% with 50% quorum (64 members must vote)


Question #4: Who should be counted for purposes of determing a quorum?
1 = A. all registered members (127 as of March 12)

Jnyusa wrote:

I will definitely do my counting in an Exel program.

Can I have a copy?
ok ok ok I'll do it manually to prove the program is right

Whip!
_______________
Resident witch

Griff -

Could you please review your ballot. In Question #1 and Question #3 the same choice appears twice and one choice is missing.

Thank you.

Alandriel -

I am making a hard copy, but don't know how to make a macintosh spread sheet go through email. I don't think you'll be able to open it as an attachment.

Meanwhile anyone else who wants to keep the tally is welcome to do so.

Jn